Boycott US
Overview:
The community dedicated to boycotting the US until they stop fascism, restore full democracy and start following international law.
Americans have a moral obligation to resist Donald Trump and project 2025 at every turn.
America is a flawed democracy currently being ruled by oligarchs. Stop the backslide! Dont let America become the next Hungary.
America needs to challenge the court rulings of citizens united v. fec and shelby county v. holder, protect the media, implement independent district drawing, and the single transferable vote so they don't end up having people stay home in life-changing elections because they cannot vote for their favourite candidate.
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The problem is monetization. YouTube is brilliant in that people work their asses off to produce content for it with the hope that some day they will be able to make money off it, so that effectively a bunch of people end up working for YouTube for free. Even if they don't make meaningful money yet they're not going to shift platforms to somewhere where monetization is simply not going to happen.
The only solution I could think of is to suggest setting up a patreon or liberapay or something, and to start uploading videos there if certain funding goals are met. Offer them an alternative to making money off ads.
@cabbage @cecilkorik @brianpeiris There's an initiative in the works to try and answer these questions, forming a co-operative structure dedicated to hosting video platform(s) in a way that can support the needs of creators, viewers and supporters. Focused on Canadian content but hoping to create a widely replicable model. It's polling for names and other feedback right now, have your say:
https://atomicpoet.org/notice/B0eL2wd3n3aWsnL756
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
Cool what about the bandwidth? Even a federated solution for video would be hard if it becomes popular.
That's something about Peertube. It works on torrenting technology if I understand correctly, could I help my instance by constantly seeding my own videos? Even if Imnot hosting my own instance, could I help shoulder the load?
I wonder if some kind of pledge system would work. Similar to Patreon, but instead of paying immediately or paying monthly, you simply make a pledge that if such-and-such creator starts uploading content to such-and-such free platform, then your pledge for $x amount goes through (either monthly or one-time). There's no actual money changing hands or any actual commitment to do so, until and unless the creator in question comes onboard. Sort of like a bug bounty, multiple people could make individual pledges to build up a pot of money, that the creator could then cash in. I can see some avenues for potential abuse, and of course people can just cancel once "mission accomplished", and you've got to expect some level of that happening but assuming creators and their community have a good and supportive relationship and really are trying to support each other I don't really see that being too much of an actual concern.
We need something that helps make the case to creators that there is a real market for this, that there is a path to being compensated for their work, and that those parts of their community that are interested in this will still help support them. It doesn't even necessarily have to be directly competitive with Youtube, at this point, we're not going to collect millions of dollars. But it shows that there is potential money being left on the table, and even if it's only a little bit of money, it's not much work for a little bit of extra money, and the creator will ultimately have to decide whether that work is worth the extra money.
Right now, there's no guarantee at all, and in fact there usually is no financial benefit. They're just guessing whether there might be some money down the road for them on alternative platforms, and that's a pretty tough sell for anybody, nevermind somebody making millions already.
This has been tried more than a few times in the past, usually in regard to textual and graphical content. It's widely known that advertisers are ready to pay at least double what the end users do, even compared to loyal audience of existing projects like on Patreon — let alone people randomly coming across the content.
That's like a reverse gofundme/kickstart with an escrow. Money held by a reputable 3rd party and if either side falls through the money goes back to the original holders
I don't want to pay monthly for someone to produce a variable number of videos, or even pay to subscribe to a whole platform to be distributed and support content I would not like to support financially. But I could very realistically consider how much I'd be willing to pay for one of their videos
A creator like Technology Connections? 100% willing to put money on the table to show there's an audience for the video. I'd be willing to pay less for a video from a streamer who plays games and puts out a video a day. They both bring entertainment value but also the production value and informational content is vastly different
I was interested so I looked into it:

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From https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/209777053-How-to-bill-members-customers
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"Per Creation was our first-ever billing model. Based on a “choose what you pay model,” you can create differently priced tiers, however, paid content is shared with all members. To bill members, you must designate which posts you want us to charge for. We create pending bills for your active members when the designated posts are published. Pending bills begin to process at approximately 12:00 am PT on the 1st of the month or when a member cancels. Members can set a monthly maximumMembers subscribed to a creator who bills per creation can set a monthly maximum of posts to support in a given month – this ensures that members aren’t charged more than they can agree to. A member’s monthly max does not impact their membership access." Seems like that's what patreon was originally intended for, but they've deprecated that feature
A lot of creators have turned to merch which I also don't really want to buy, unless it's practical like a tool because I don't like wearing branded or logod things and have no need for knickknacks (stickers are an exception but they go on water bottles). Besides, the markup is ridiculous for very basic commodities
And this is why anything well fail. We don't want to pay.
So it should be an easy W for the producers who already have Patreon etc. right? Just upload to one more place and make everyone happy.
Yup, that's why I'm asking them to use the alternative as a secondary, not a primary platform. I just want the option for now, we'll have to see how things shake out in terms of monetization a few years from now.
Why would they waste their time for free? It still requires work on their part and time is not free.