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Elon Musk Had Grok Rewrite Wikipedia. It Calls Hitler “The Führer.” (theintercept.com)
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In late October, Elon Musk released a Wikipedia alternative, with pages written by his AI chatbot Grok. Unlike its nearly quarter-century-old namesake, Musk said Grokipedia would strip out the “woke” from Wikipedia, which he previously described as an “extension of legacy media propaganda.” But while Musk’s Grokipedia, in his eyes, is propaganda-free, it seems to have a proclivity toward right-wing hagiography.

Take Grokipedia’s entry on Adolf Hitler. Until earlier this month, the entry read, “Adolf Hitler was the Austrian-born Führer of Germany from 1933 to 1945.” That phrase has been edited to “Adolf Hitler was an Austrian-born German politician and dictator,” but Grok still refers to Hitler by his honorific one clause later, writing that Hitler served as “Führer und Reichskanzler from August 1934 until his suicide in 1945.” NBC News also pointed out that the page on Hitler goes on for some 13,000 words before the first mention of the Holocaust.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Why would they use the honorary, German word Fuhrer in an English language wiki article though?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Exactly.

If you are describing hitler's role in WW2? Yes, he was The German Fuhrer.

I would say that, honestly, I prefer the second version as it is more accurate to what he was. But any time you change something you have to ask "what does it mean that we are changing things?"

And since musk is, at best, someone who wishes he was as cool as the losers on LUE back in the day? This is very much not being done with a journalistic style guide in mind.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We also use "Dalai Lama", for example. Changing it to "leader" would lose a lot in translation. There's a very long list of more problematic things with Musk and this ego project than this particular wording choice.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I agree with the second half but disagree on the first. We do use Dalai Lama because thats what he's known as across the world (at least fron my understanding) . We didn't refer to Angela Merkel as Furher of Germany when she lead it so it seems weird to include this in the introductory summary of Hitler especially considering it's an English article. I dont think you're losing anything in translation in this example by calling him the "leader of Germany" at that time. Down below, in the verbose write-up, seems like the more appropriate place to use it.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't think the Merkel comparison is accurate - no one called her Leader, we called her the Chancellor (Kanzler), because that's the job title. "Chancellor" is a pretty specific word in English with a narrower meaning and clearer connotation than "leader", which can be used in a huge variety of contexts. The problem is that English doesn't have a 1:1 translation of Fuehrer as we do with Kanzler, and "leader" is too generic versus Chancellor, Prime Minister, President, etc. Maybe "Supreme Leader" would work, but I haven't seen that used often enough for it to stick.