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EU court rules entire bloc must respect same-sex marriages in rebuke to Poland
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Polacks gonna polack.
No clue why you’re being downvoted. I grew up in Eastern Europe. It’s a shithole of misogyny and pseudo-masculinity, like an infection by proximity with Russia and Turkey.
They're getting downvoted because they made an obviously bigoted statement. But, y'know, bigots gonna bigot.
They’re bigoted against white fascists. That’s a new one.
No, you're bigoted against Polish people, and it's not new at all.
Yes, I’m bigoted against my own people and citizens of Fascistland. Either that or you’re a crypto-nationalist offended that I insulted your shitty culture.
Based on what you've said, I believe you.
Found the pole
I mean, there might be some in there, but my ancestors were overwhelmingly German. You on the other hand, I can tell, are 100% a douchebag. What a rich heritage!
Sorry about your overwhelmingly Nazi heritage, hope it gets better.
More bigotry will help!
With your heritage you are the expert in bigotry
No, the only thing my heritage made me an expert in is almost certainly getting dementia in my late 60s. Bigotry is learned, you can't inherit it.
I appreciate that! I don't know why you want to "be annoying" about calling people Nazis, but I won't pry.
Low blood sugar and toxic personality, if I had to guess.
Christ, you're fucking insufferable.
Yet you keep reading so I have to question your intelligence.
Question all you want; I couldn't give a fuck.
It's not in question anymore, thank you for the confirmation.
Anyone willing to agitate themselves like this has got to be drooling on the floor moronic.
It's also obvious that you give a massive fuck, otherwise you wouldn't jump into a convo this far in.
It massive depends where in Poland. Some parts of Poland are super progressive, others regressive. It's the nature of the beast.
Yep, it's like that all over the world, anyone saying "fuck everyone from this particular country" is simply a bigot.
Yeah as a polish person I got what they meant but I found it offensive
what parts are super progressive? asking cuz i have family in poland and would definitely love to learn more about the more progressive areas
Poland grew up a lot in recent years though. Every post Soviet country had a rough journey rebuilding their entire country and culture tho Poland got really captured by Catholic grfit unfortunately.
Looks into Poland:
deeply racist and patriarchal country, with its roots deeply tied to Catholicism
Average lemmitor: "IT'S ALL THE FUCKING RUZZIANS AND TURKS!!!"
I’d like to echo what others have said about Poland not being that bad.
Southeastern Europe is a lot worse. They were under occupation by the Turks for 500 years, then by Russia for half a century. As someone raised in that region, I would have to think long and hard to come up with anything positive to say about Russian or Turkish influence.
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So according to that graph you linked, Harris would have won everywhere except the bottom 8 countries, one of which is Russia and some have elected Russia friendly governments. Also out of those 7 countries, Slovenia, Slovakia and Hungary were not under Russian or Turkish influence. They were under Austrian Habsburg influence. Which only leaves Serbia, Bulgaria, Georgia and Moldova(the last two which have active Russian troops occupying their territory).
You also assume that their dislike of Harris is due to misogyny when it could be due to her policies. Even so, she would have won the election with over 50% of votes in literally 75% of European countries, some of which were under Turkish or Russian occupation or influence(Romania, Kosovo, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Greece and Croatia). Shit, some of these countries don't even vote their own head of goverment with over 50% and have to hold runoff elections most of the time. Harris getting over 50% of votes means she did better than their own homegrown politicians (though I assume the result are this way because of the binary choice presented, as most European elections have a plurality of candidates and the vote is split amongst them).
Proximity to Russia is strongly correlated with fascist politics. Hence Trump’s appeal. That’s not a coincidence.
Where did you get that from?
As a Hungarian, I can easily tell you that that's not the case. Hungary was under Turkish rule for more than 100 years between 1526-1699. It has left deep marks on both our language and culture (sometimes good ones, like having a lot of Turkish bathhouses, but mostly just set us back quite some years).
As for Russia, Hungary was a Soviet puppet state between 1944-1989. We have a national holiday on October 23 that is a remembrance day for a failed revolution against the Soviet Union, that was shot down in a bloodbath. The current ruling party started as one of the anti-Russian parties, Orbán (our current president) literally held a speech where he was chanting "Ruszkik haza!" ("Russians go home!")... It's unfortunate that he has completely flipped since then and is now welcoming Russian influence back.
I can only assume something similar for our neighbours, but I'm happy to look it up for you.
EDIT: Also, before anyone says it, I'm not contesting that the countries in the list were under Austrian (or Austro-Hungarian) rule too. The lines are messy with whose side of the story you're reading, but as for Hungary the easy way to summarise it from the Turkish invasion is:
The guy I was answering to claimed that the countries were under Turkish or Russian control for more than half a century. Which is not true. Hungary was under Turkish control for around 100 years but you're not going to tell me that Turkish influence from the 17th century has such a major effect on today's Hungary.
And while Hungary was under Soviet control it was not really a peaceful and compliant control as they had multiple resistances and popular uprising against them, starting with the 1956 revolution which the Soviets had to put down by killing thousands of Hungarians.
That's true. I think the only political (if we can call it that) heritage of the Turkish occupation is that the Turkish generally think of Hungarians as friends, probably since it's a celebrated part of their history.
As for the Soviet era, I'm confident it still has its effects. Of course, it didn't help economically, but also, I think that's where our rampant corruption stems from (in most Soviet countries corruption was the norm, and I think it became normalised somewhat, as in "oh yeah, they are corrupt, but that's nothing compared to what we had before!").
I think our dependance on Russian gas also started back then (but I don't have the receipts for that).
Also, there are plenty of people who look at the Soviet era through rose-tinted glasses and romanticise the past. I have relatives that have the attitude of "yes, but if you didn't rebel, you could have a stable job and live an honest life; nowadays you have to worry about so much", which doesn't make sense.
Yeah, so you're just openly racist, gotcha!
If by "Russian occupation" you mean "belonging to the communist geopolitical block of Eastern Europe", then I ask, what good things can you come up with about your newfound American occupation?
They’re the same race as me. Their cultures are fascistic and oppressive and I’d rather die than go back. Not that American culture is that much better.
The Catholic church has a very strong grip on Polish culture (and often government), which is what drives a lot of things like this
I'm familiar, I've been around polacks my whole life. The American branch is quite similar to their European counterparts.