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[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Also out of those 7 countries, Slovenia, Slovakia and Hungary were not under Russian or Turkish influence.

Where did you get that from?

As a Hungarian, I can easily tell you that that's not the case. Hungary was under Turkish rule for more than 100 years between 1526-1699. It has left deep marks on both our language and culture (sometimes good ones, like having a lot of Turkish bathhouses, but mostly just set us back quite some years).

As for Russia, Hungary was a Soviet puppet state between 1944-1989. We have a national holiday on October 23 that is a remembrance day for a failed revolution against the Soviet Union, that was shot down in a bloodbath. The current ruling party started as one of the anti-Russian parties, Orbán (our current president) literally held a speech where he was chanting "Ruszkik haza!" ("Russians go home!")... It's unfortunate that he has completely flipped since then and is now welcoming Russian influence back.

I can only assume something similar for our neighbours, but I'm happy to look it up for you.

EDIT: Also, before anyone says it, I'm not contesting that the countries in the list were under Austrian (or Austro-Hungarian) rule too. The lines are messy with whose side of the story you're reading, but as for Hungary the easy way to summarise it from the Turkish invasion is:

  • Turkish rule
  • Gets liberated by the Habsburgs, leading to
  • Austrian rule
  • Revolution, leading to getting some representation (sadly, just Hungary, not the other countries in the empire), leading to
  • Austria-Hungary, leading to
  • WW1
  • Loads of failed governments, the great depression hits hard, leading to
  • WW2, leading to
  • Soviet occupation, leading to
  • Failed revolutions
  • Soviet Union falls, leading to
  • Independent Hungarian republic, heavy anti-Russian sentiment, leading to
  • Hungary tries to warm up to western powers, leading to
  • Hungary joins the EU
  • And now, with corruption and foreign influence going strong worldwide, Russian influence is rising again
[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The guy I was answering to claimed that the countries were under Turkish or Russian control for more than half a century. Which is not true. Hungary was under Turkish control for around 100 years but you're not going to tell me that Turkish influence from the 17th century has such a major effect on today's Hungary.

And while Hungary was under Soviet control it was not really a peaceful and compliant control as they had multiple resistances and popular uprising against them, starting with the 1956 revolution which the Soviets had to put down by killing thousands of Hungarians.

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's true. I think the only political (if we can call it that) heritage of the Turkish occupation is that the Turkish generally think of Hungarians as friends, probably since it's a celebrated part of their history.

As for the Soviet era, I'm confident it still has its effects. Of course, it didn't help economically, but also, I think that's where our rampant corruption stems from (in most Soviet countries corruption was the norm, and I think it became normalised somewhat, as in "oh yeah, they are corrupt, but that's nothing compared to what we had before!").

I think our dependance on Russian gas also started back then (but I don't have the receipts for that).

Also, there are plenty of people who look at the Soviet era through rose-tinted glasses and romanticise the past. I have relatives that have the attitude of "yes, but if you didn't rebel, you could have a stable job and live an honest life; nowadays you have to worry about so much", which doesn't make sense.