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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I can’t figure out why people love Rogue One.

On its face, its a good movie. I think what put it over the top was the way in which they folded the final scene so neatly into the opening scene of New Hope.

it has terrible pacing, a story that didn’t particularly need to be told, unengaging leads (rewatch after Andor helps some but not entirely), and too much fan service

Eh. Rewatched it recently and I'll spot that it feels like three shorter films stapled together. But they're three good movies. I'll also say that "story that needs to be told" is the absolute wrong philosophy for the Star Wars setting. The show is at its best when its just people bumping around the Galaxy in the shadow of the tentpole events. You could write a Star Wars sitcom that's just imperial bureaucrats fucking around in the style of The Office and it could be solid gold. Hell, that's on-and-off what made The Mandalorian so good.

Lucas made a fun setting full of creative little asides and bits of exotic Sci-Fi art that anyone would peel off and do their own thing with. That's what makes it so great for video games, TTRPGs, EU novels, comedy sketches, amateur art renditions, cosplay... The franchise is this elaborate sandbox full of fun little toys. Just grabbing a few and swinging them around is fun, whether or not you have the whole history of the extended universe committed to heart.

Also, incidentally, what makes "We're doing the Death Star again" so hack. You don't need to build a new death star when you can just play with the one you've already got. Test firing on Jedha is fun. Running around a construction site full of spare Death Star parts is fun. Rescuing an engineer is fun. Getting stuck in a trash compactor on the detention level is fun.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Episode 8 is better.

I don't think you really have to choose. You also don't really need to throw $30M at every episode (or whatever Andor's budget was) to have fun in the setting. One reason I enjoyed Solo so much was in how it got back to that slumming-it style of Star Wars. The little vinette of Han as an imperial commando trying to survive the trenches of some mudhole was perfect Star Wars material and didn't require a metric fuckton of CGI to pull off.