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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Remind me again which game developer had to release their game on Steam? Or which publisher had no choice but to market on the platform? And are you the sole user forced to use Steam, or was that someone else...?

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

If I want my game to sell I have to release on Steam, though.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 22 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting that first part... Respectfully, no one is entitled to sales on any platform. As a consumer, I've tried other launchers and stores. I hate them all. I choose to only use Steam (for the time being). It's simply choosing the superior option, but it is an option. I can't say the same for my internet, energy, or cable companies...

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Respectfully, no one is entitled to sales on any platform.

I’ve never said that. Of course if I‘m publishing a game I want it to be successful. If I was a book publisher, I‘d have to sell via Amazon, too, simply because a lot of people never buy anywhere else. It is a requirement to sell on Steam for a successful campaign, and OP implied otherwise.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It would really help if the would-be competitors focused on consumer-facing features rather than... whatever it is they're doing. GoG is doing a great job of this, but EGS is still missing even the most basic features years later, because they keep trying to get market share through buying exclusives and giving away free games and that's sadly never going to work out. They just don't understand what the consumers in the industry they're trying to operate in want.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, but acting like I don’t need Steam for my game to sell is untrue.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but the point I'm making is, it's not Steam's fault; they're simply doing a better job than their competitors of making their storefront attractive to consumers. Rather than blaming Steam, you should be blaming the other storefronts for not being able to capture market share.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I‘m not blaming anyone.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I know! There's this great game called Fortnite that no one has ever heard of because you can't get it on Steam. /s

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

It did well because EGS is so great /s It’s obviously the exception.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can sell your game on Steam, in addition to other platforms as well.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

You're not contradicting anything they said, and you're not contradicting that Steam is a monopoly.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Hey look, the contrarian is back! Wow! I thought you would take some time to reflect after your wack takes.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don‘t think it’s very contrarian or whack to acknowledge the fact that I may need to sell on the biggest platform if I want my game to do well.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm referring to your prior comments and history speaking in communities. The most recent one I remember involved Portal, Half-life, and counterstrike.

You're not at Lembot_0005 level comments yet tho, so that's good.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yes, harassing users without context based on previous comments in other threads is much more valuable for a community. I don’t even remember having contrarian opinions about Portal or Half-Life, they are my favourite series‘.

[–] anguo@piefed.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't make it less of a monopoly.

[–] Aspharr@lemmy.world 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think the difference here is that Valve isn't forcing a monopoly in the way our tech overlords like Google and Amazon do through acquisitions and regulatory capture.

Several companies have tried and mostly failed to compete with Steam, I'm primarily thinking of whatever the EA and Ubisoft launchers are. The two closest have been GOG whom I would argue is fairly successful considering what their goals are and Epic, whom I would say is much less so.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This is the key point people are missing.

Valve arent paying for exclusives or anything, they are just delivering a far better product than anyone else. GOG has it's DRM-free market, but outside of that, there's nothing close. Even if Epic Games had feature parity, fuck that company.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Amazon doesn't either. Most of the arguments defending Steam can easily apply to every other "bad" company.

The only thing that differentiates steam is their marketing budget targeting small forums and Reddit.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 30 minutes ago

I never mentioned Amazon, but it's really no comparison, even the FTC in the USA has filed suits against them for monopolistic and illegal behaviour.

Ive never seen an advert for Steam myself, outside of on their own platform or a video on their own YouTube channel. They sell largely through word of mouth. I suppose recently they offered journalists to visit their HQ to show off their new hardware.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Technically Steam isn't a monopoly by actual definition.

What you, and others often mean with the term, is that they hold a majority market position.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Not to mention the companies that have legal decisions declaring they are a monopoly when they are only 80%+ of a market are in the context of those companies (Microsoft, google) behaving in an anticompetitive way using their majority market position.

So not technically a monopoly and not comparable to legally declared monopolies.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 6 hours ago
[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, why do you buy things if you're against capitalism? Checkmate.