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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Got and good examples for that statement? I can't really think of any situations where it is seen as stunning and brave for a woman to enter a men only space. There is a big difference with mostly male and only male.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Like every STEM field ever?

Even if it is just mostly male, it is still seen as stunning and brave. When it should just be the norm.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Like every STEM field ever?

Not male only, I think you may have misunderstood my point.

I suppose the most obvious example is men in sheds. It somethings that was created especially to deal with the issue of male loneliness, especially amongst the older community. Basis for being single gender, was to address those older gents who feel pressures to act a certain way around women. This was that one place they could go and just hang out doing wood working and what not. It was for men to make connections with other men, because men, seemingly, struggle with making or even keeping connections.

Enter the women, who think its sexist. Who think that men dont need just time to themselves. Theres mixed sex and single sex(female) things all over the place. But some women see men only spaces, and think "Not on my fucking watch!!!".

Every day we talk about mens mental health, then some gaggle of cave brained cunts turns up to tell men how they have to sort their own shit out. Men in sheds did just that. Then it got popular, and then that same gaggle of cave brained cunts turns up talking about how male only spaces are toxic... Rinse, repeat, ad Infinium

https://www.4bc.com.au/women-are-demanding-entry-into-mens-sheds https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5qd9l3094o

Why cant men have male on spaces? Why can we have our man caves? And if we do, why is it a a bad thing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jan/29/members-of-londons-savile-club-vote-against-letting-women-join

Theres a guardian hit piece on the "disappointing" vote to have one of the last remaining gentlemans clubs remain male only. They also have a little go at "mostly white" like thats a fucking crime as well.

Same thing happened at the Flyers club. Men only for 141 years, then all of a sudden women want in and its sexist not to let them.

We cant even just play fucking video games, without getting hammered over the head about how its childish and that we need to grow up. God fucking forbid, we have a fucking hobby and some fun together.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://time.com/archive/6709832/organizations-not-for-men-only/

There's also the Scouts formerly known as Boy ("Boy Scouts" no longer exists, it's now "Girl Scouts" and "Scouting America" now.)

Male only spaces are often sued out of existence.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So I recently looked at both Girlscouts and Scouts of America for my daughter. Honestly when I tried to compare with Scouts of America the folks from Girlscouts were very sexist and very quick to bash on their competition while Scouts of America was just like "yeah were gonna go hiking and make pinewood derby cars and have a good time" both organizations have their problems but Scouts of America was noticably the less toxic of the two at this point

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tbh I'm not surprised, I do think that SOA was forced to be inclusive, but they have been for years now and so they're probably used to it.

Conversely Girl Scouts not only were never pressured to be inclusive, they're actively shielded from having to be inclusive. You think they're sexist when a girl wants to join you should see how they treat boys who want to join!

Also worth noting, the whole reasoning behind forcing the Boy Scouts to allow girls was "because the girl scouts sucks."

Personally I think the correct answer was either:

A) Boy/Girl scouts merge, they're both now Scouting America and everyone can join. Could even expand it to adults that missed out as kids and want to learn survival skills or want to hike and camp with other adults (separate units of course from the kids lmao, but I'll shoehorn in a healthy "third place" for adults any chance I get). And keep selling the Girl Scout cookies but call them Scouting America cookies now.

B) Nothing. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts remain limited to their respective genders, and if "girl scouts sucks" then it is their responsibility to improve and make it not suck instead of forcing their way into the Boy Scouts. Leaves NB out to dry though, and could get weird if someone wants to transition but their Scout Credits don't transfer with them.

But we got neither, instead we got "the boys do not deserve their own space but the girls do" which is a little weird to me (though entirely too common.)

I am glad however that you were able to go with the less toxic option, and I do still love Thin Mints, I just wish they'd have taken option (A) instead of option (D)ouble Standard.