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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Now that the US is sending them to Saudi, how secure will they be from investigation by foreign adversaries?

Plus, the entire supply chain system of relying on the US for software and hardware updates, having to physically send the planes to the US for maintenance, all while the US continues to talk about annexing us is completely fucking bonkers.

Even without the annexation threats the setup would be stupid.

I know it’s a fancy and advanced plane, but knowing how the US military industrial complex works I’m pretty sure you’re paying a high multiplier for no reason too.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Super advanced, so advanced that Iran shot what 3 down?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

There have been no confirmed downings of F-35's.

While it's fully possible that the US is lying about that, it's equally possible that the claims from Iran are also lies, because half of military action is information and misinformation. I wouldn't lean on foreign propaganda any more than I would domestic propaganda.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 50 minutes ago

If you want a laugh, go look up the photos Iran doctored up for this bit of propaganda. I remember one had an F35 with cockpit the size of a school bus on it. Another had the tail section on backwards. Probably AI slop, but fake photos to be sure.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

There have been no confirmed downings of F-35’s.

Several "oops this plane just fell off the flight deck, oh well, shit happens" articles in recent memory. A great way to explain why the Navy is suddenly down a vehicle without having to explain to anyone in the general public what happened.

I wouldn’t lean on foreign propaganda any more than I would domestic propaganda.

Americans are putting these jets into service and a surprising number of them are failing.

Whether Iran/Yemen have successfully struck any of them or the Navy can't get them on and off the flight deck reliably is almost a moot point. A downed plane is a downed plane.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, that all may be the case, but counterpoint: ospreys.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Is this a contest to crash the most aircraft?

Because my man, the GOAT, John "New Plane" McCain would like to have a word.