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Transcription“Never feel bad about eating unhealthy things like cheesecake. Use the science of relativity. Cheesecake is healthier than crystal meth. Take another slice and be thankful.”

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

I’m willing to bet you’d be healthier after 10 years of 10mg daily oral methamphetamine than 10 years of 1 slice daily cheesecake.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

The results are quite different from the perspective of body weight and mental health.

You either become overweight with good mental health

Or

You maintain low or under weight gain and have a severe drug addiction that destroys your mental health.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Taking 10 mg of methamphetamine a day is smaller than an average clinical dosage of Adderall, with a similar risk profile.

On a milligram per milligram basis, methamphetamine is weaker than dextroamphetamine, and 10mg is a very normal dose of d-amp.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Addiction is usually measured not by how much you can or can't take ... but how, when and if you can stop.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

10mg is a clinical dose. Methamphetamine is a prescription drug.

Discontinuing cold turkey from 10mg daily would not result in significant withdrawal symptoms.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's not addiction, otherwise I'm technically addicted to my painkillers, anti-psychotics and stimulants. As well as air, warmth and food.

An addiction is when someone compulsively seeks out a pleasurable experience despite net negative consequences.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree but I've been surrounded by way too many examples in my life where these arguments and counter points don't exactly work all the time. If you are a level headed person with a good background, education, self control and generally a good upbringing ... then yes, someone on as much painkillers, stimulants and anti-psychotics as you say would be capable of managing all those medications in a responsible way.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the world is filled with mentally unstable or people whose lives are on the edge of being unstable. There are a lot of dysfunctional and unbalanced people out there.

So when you give these arguments about drugs, they make sense to a very small segment of well balanced and moderately wealthy members of society ... but when you apply this logic to the majority of society, these arguments just don't make any sense.

I've known several people that started out with pain killers and opioid medications for real medical issues ... only to become helplessly addicted and it was their medications and addictions (that originated from taking those medications) that killed them rather than their initial condition.

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 3 points 9 hours ago

What argument? You mean the psychological definition of an addiction? That "argument?"

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Are diabetics (which you'd probably become if you ate cheesecake daily) addicted to insulin then? Cause they definitely can't stop using there drug.

Addiction and dependence are two different things. Dependence means you have to take a drug otherwise you'll suffer negative consequences, addiction means you keep taking a drug despite the negative consequences it's causing. Dependence isn't a problem in and of itself, it becomes a problem when it's intertwined with addiction.

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