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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I really just see current AI as search 2.0.

It's less dumb, but it's still fucking dumb. Search gives me garbage results constantly, so does AI. AI is usually just a little bit easier to figure out since you just ask it natural language questions unlike traditional search.

When googling anything today you really can't find useful information unless it's a very specific set of instructions usually on a social media site. AI doesn't give you nearly as much garbage unless you start asking it really complex questions.

[–] 2xar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The sad thing is, we've already had this figured out before.

15-20 years ago Google was almost perfect. It completely blew my mind how accurate and fast it was. Many times it felt like it was a mind-reader. I didn't even type in half my question and it was already auto-completing it and showing the results, the first few of which contained a very exact and detailed answer that someone wrote on a forum somewhere or an article that gave me a complete and correct answer. Remember the old 'I'm feeling lucky' button which directly took you to the first search result? Yea, it was pretty usable back then, because the first result was usually correct. Pepperidge farm 'members...

And then the enshittification started by pumping the site full of ads. First the ads were pretty distinguishable from the real results and you could just scroll through them. Then they started to disguise the ads more and more like real results, and just showing more of them. And by now I think google is basically ONLY ads. There are NO real results on it. Virtually the only 'content' you are shown are what somebody has payed for google to show. Even if what you are looking for is a very well known, public interest fact, if nobody is paying for it, google is not going to show it. E.g. the other day google could not find me the website of a country-wide utility company for electricity by typing their exact name, because I guess they haven't paid their monthly ads for google.

Luckily there are other alternatives to google, which still have 'don't do evil' in their corporate philosophy. None of them are close to as good as google used to be, especially if you are not searching in english. But still a hell of a lot better than how google is now.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is more to it than that... 20 years ago most of the people on the internet were likely similar to you, so most of their desired results were similar to yours.

Now people on the internet since the early 2000 are a minority compared to the "democratized" flood of users who joined in the mobile crapplication phase and started skewing search results towards simpler, less useful results.

SEO and ads didn't help, but the whole ecosystem broke the model.

[–] bobgobbler@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

None of what you said explains what they are talking about lol.

It’s like you have no experience with what they’re talking about

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice troll bait.

No, I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Google's old results were based on click-through determining which results were best. Now that the quality of the average user is lower, so is the quality of the average click-through result.

That's as much response as you're going to get though. You responded in bad faith, so now you're going to talk to yourself if you choose to respond.

You know I do agree with you.

For some reason the folks here don’t get the flood of “normal people” that have taken over the internet that was really only for techies 20-25 years ago. It was even more pronounced before then.

Back then in many ways the internet was a little bit like lemmy today. There isn’t critical mass with shitloads of idiots, there’s tons of like minded people who think critically and try to do what’s right. Unfortunately Pandora’s box has been opened though, so it’s still not exactly the same.

If you ask me, the windows 95/98/xp era required the same level of patience and technical troubleshooting that Linux requires today. Maybe even more than modern Linux honestly. Windows 8/10/11 have been essentially on rails so much that needing to understand and figure shit out is less needed than ever. The people today on the internet generally are not at all like the people who used to be the majority here.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Google search was was better before, like 10 years ago

Yes. Every year the SEO slop article bloat increases.

The trend has been steadily downwards for at least another decade as money making has been the goal above and beyond everything else.

In some ways I think the internet’s era is coming to an end. I don’t even know what the fuck we call it but the slop has taken over. Every website with information has paywalls or the most horrific advertisements we’ve ever seen.

I don’t understand how people even use the internet without ad blockers but many do. Every day all the anti Adblock tech updates and breaks everything unless you fuck with it, and they usually fix it. Feels like any day we’re just a couple of small changes away from BIOS level DRM where no website can be viewed without windows configured with secure boot and some officially sanctioned DRM rootkit. After all, who cares about Linux support when it’s such a small market share? Stuff like chat control feels adjacent to this.