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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

which demonstrates how amoral the entire usa right wing has become.

If you seriously believe the US or otherwise right wing was ever moral, I have a perfectly moral strategy to sell you.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think it's possible to have small c conservative values and still be a productive and peaceful member of society. Even if I might disagree with their views.

However, I don't know that the American political right has had any genuinely held small c conservative values since Reagan, so

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Small c conservative values before Reagan were racism and segregation so I'm personally not convinced. I mean if you look at a timeline of American rightwing politics you go from Jim Crow to the Civil Rights Movement and right into Nixon's Southern Strategy. That shit has always been based on racism and slavery.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works -5 points 4 days ago

There was racism before Reagan?? No way?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Small c conservatism is specifically about victimizing minority groups. That is not peaceful.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Seems overly reductive, are we just saying anyone who falls on the right of the political spectrum is non-viable in a polite society?

You might see the irony of that?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What is polite about telling someone who was born a certain way beyond their choices that they shouldn’t exist? Not every worldview is inherently good or noble. Some are just evil.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This argument is entirely specious. I didn't say people who think other people shouldn't exist.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then how would you define conservatism (I recognize this conversation is getting annoying and if you bail out I won’t hold it against you).

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

You can be economically right-wing, while not being a racist piece of shit.

They may seem the same to Americans, but they aren't in every other country.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I believe that in the past some of them had morals, but that now none of them do.