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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You don't seem to understand how desperately we need someone sympathetic and admirable to unfuck things

I do. That's WHY I'm speaking up against suggesting people who are both but don't have the skill set, experience, and other requisites for being good at politics.

It's ~~probably~~ DEFINITELY not Eilish or Steward, but if sure as hell isn't Gavin Newsum or Kamala Harris either

Fixed it for you.

If you don't think it's appropriate to call for random public figures to run for president, I don't think you really understand where politics in this country are right now

On the contrary: I know that it's not appropriate BECAUSE I know American politics well enough to know how fucked up things are.

As I pointed out already, random public figures being drafted for/inserting themselves into politics is a HUGE part of the problem, going back to Reagan, and likely further still.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think what we need is a competent administrator? Fuck no, what we need a symbol to rally behind. Look at Trump... He doesn't do shit

We need a populist figure that will attract progressives who do know how politics work, and not the Democratic party picks, who are consultant brained cowards who resist change

Reagan was bad because he was the face of a bad movement. Same with Trump. It doesn't matter that they were on TV first, they had the same evil cabal behind them

At the end of the day, bad things are bad and good things are good. You're misdiagnosising the problem

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago

Do you think what we need is a competent administrator?

To do the job of competently administering things? Funnily enough, I do.

Fuck no, what we need a symbol to rally behind

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Look at Trump... He doesn't do shit

Case in fucking point!

We need a populist figure that will attract progressives who do know how politics work, and not the Democratic party picks, who are consultant brained cowards who resist change

Agreed on all counts.

Reagan was bad because he was the face of a bad movement

And because his charisma and fame far outstripped his competency and integrity.

His image made the movement possible just like Trump does now. Giving incompetent (at the ACTUAL job) figureheads a lot of power tends to cause a shitload of trouble for everyone else involved, and often themselves.

At the end of the day, bad things are bad and good things are good.

Which is why I would love for Michael Phelps to perform surgery on me! After all, good is good and he was REALLY good at transporting himself through liquid swiftly!

You're misdiagnosising the problem

Nope. You're endorsing a big part of the problem as a solution.