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I would not mind if we collectively decided to just use gender neutral terms when referring to kids till they are old enough to express a preference.
It would actually even be a benefit for “saving the kids” the less personal details strangers can know the better.
I'm even fine with only using gender neutral terms period. At least as the default
How about an agender-by-default society
I would. My boys are my boys and a collective decreeing I should wait until they decide they're boys is fucking mental, and illustrates the kind of warped thinking that goes a long way to explaining how 'the left' has handed power to that psycho in the White House on a plate.
What in the actual fuck did I use read
I am mostly speaking about when referring to your kids while speaking to other adults.
Case on point, you just told the public internet you are the parent of multiple kids of the male sex. Why should anyone here need that personal information?
Kids also discover genders pretty early in life. They will have an initial preference.
Hardly. And why not? Why do you seek to repress what I chose to mention online? Like it or otherwise, the vast majority majority of folk don't have to go far to 'discover' their gender.
I have no interest in the relentless naval gazing regarding gender that disproportionately dominates online conversations, likely perpetuated by bad actors trying to push a niche issue into the mainstream to further splinter the left, but to my mind pushing a collective that removes gender from people until they decide at some arbitrary age what they want to be is not the change most people want.
You’re not being pushed towards anything by me. Normalising safe practices is not the same as making it required law
I am merely pointing out that in most contexts people don’t require that information and the less information about your kids is out there the safer they are.
I know that gender has been made political, but it shouldn’t be. Frankly its dumb that people care so much for something that is rarely relevant outside the bedroom.
Fair enough, perhaps I overreacted. I'm not particularly concerned that mentioning the gender or number of sprogs I have as part of a broader conversation poses a risk as such, but I take your point.
You're not a cryptofacist, you're a socialist. A socialist who spends his time arguing online about concept of transgender people. Seems legit.
I do no such thing. I have nothing against trans people whatsoever. Where are you getting that from?
Hey everybody, this guy is cryptofacist. People who blame the right wing rise to power on "the Left" are usually cryptofascists, pretending to be Liberals in order to scold Leftists for trying to stand up for themselves while they're getting the shit kicked out of them.
In 2014-2016 right wing algorithms and niche right wing media creators pushed obscure, unpopular content within the "commentary" space (sometimes content created by literal insane internet randos) and presented it as mainstream Leftist thought in order to frame Leftists as mental, but even if they hadn't done that, Rightists would have taken power anyway. Right wing groups in America have a shit ton of money, power, and influence that Leftist groups do not have. Leftists don't even have a political party in the US, as far as I know.
Interesting, yet wildly off the mark take. I'm Scottish and have been a socialist my whole life, but I've mostly zero interest in tedious labeling. People like you with their skewed outrage and impossibly narrow definitions of how we should live are as complicit as the MAGA nut jobs in the decline of political conversation.
what the fuck are you talking about bro
There is no way to prove that you are either Scottish or a socialist, this is yet another cryptofacist tactic: "Hey fellow leftists, don't bother saying or doing anything to defend yourself because it will make people vote for Trump. You hear that, all five of you? All five of you shut up."
You're unhinged.
A till is a cash drawer. What are you selling?!?
I used to think that as well, but this is also standard usage: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/should-you-use-until-or-till-or-til
Ah, Webster -- the guy who rewrote American and the Dictionary that first equated Figurative with Literal.
It's logically unsound.
Remembering that Dictionaries don't tell you what's right, only what's popular at best, and that Webster is about the worst there, It's not a great reference. And if we trusted the mob to decide how to spell and pronounce words, you and I would be MUCH better at the head-wobble -- popularity as a mechanism for evolution would have refactored a LOT of pronunciation and spelling a while ago.
The abbreviation of "until" is " 'til ". I know this because it's an abbreviation, and "until" doesn't have two Ls.
Here’s Grammar.com saying the same: https://www.grammar.com/usage_and_difference:_till,_until,_'til (you have to copy/paste the entire link - Lemmy is fighting me on the URL format).
There are plenty of non-dictionary linguistic sources out there that corroborate, but I’m not going to waste my time spoon feeding them to you when clearly you’re incapable of admitting when you’re wrong. “Till” is not an abbreviation. You made that assertion up all on your own. And I’m certainly not going to trust someone who doesn’t even know when it’s proper to capitalize words.
jesus christ