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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not a big fan of your book about imaginary friends that tell you what to do

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If only truth was so easy to dismiss so we can follow our own selfish desires...

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

truth

If your definition of truth includes religious texts in any capacity other than, perhaps, a very dated take on philosophy, then that’s a point we are simply not going to agree on.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

What do you mean by "dated take" - does right or wrong change with time?

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What would you say: is buying slaves from the nations that surround me still right, did god instruct people to do wrong or did right and wrong change?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

God never instructed people to buy slaves. Concessions were once made to an adulterous nation because of their hardened hearts.

[–] GojuRyu@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

If you want to say that god made concessions to man go ahead. He still instructed them in how to hold chattel slaves and implied that they could do so ruthlessly, only restricting them from doing so to eachother.

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Yes it does. The bounds of what society considers acceptable or reprehensible changes with time, location, and culture.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 11 hours ago

So if morality is subjective, then who are we to judge the holocaust? It was acceptable in that time, location and culture.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The morals of the Abrahamic Religions are the morals of blood-thirsty totalitarian pedophiles.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck you and fuck this take. Theists don't have a monopoly on the capacity to be charitable and a positive influence.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

But we do on rational charitability. You know what's right and what's wrong. You can believe in good and evil without believing in the same God who put it there. Just how someone can also believe the summer is especially warm without believing in man-made climate change.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If there was a just god, it would hate people like you, that's for sure.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And why's that? Because you hate me and you are always right?

If there was a god who was perfectly just and nothing else, wouldn't he hate all of us?