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[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 85 points 5 days ago (26 children)

Me studying French so ~~that I can refuse to speak it~~ I immediately get a response in English whenever I attempt to speak it

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

I am fully bilingual eng/fr, went to school in french, but have a particular regional Canadian accent. Whenever in France, everyone responds in English anyways. They don't like the accent at all. On my first trip to Paris, after ordering a beer at a bar in the latin quarter after checking into my hotel, an older woman sitting at the bar as a customer turned to me and said "Vous parlez mal". i.e. You speak badly. I'll never forget the horror in her eyes as I spoke.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Vous parlez mal". i.e. You speak badly. I'll never forget the horror in her eye

It’s funny that she would think that our french is worse than theirs, when canadian french is closer to actual french than parisian french.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Is it closer?

What is “actual French”?

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_French has lots of info on this but almost all of it is “citation needed”. It sounds like it depends on who you ask though leans towards Metropolitan (Paris) being the standard because of the language origins and it being easier to learn.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well if you go back 500 years, every little corner of france has their own version of french, with Paris speaking roughly what they speak today. Canadians descend from other regions, mostly the north and west and inherited their way of speaking. So I call it “actual french” but really I just mean the french that was most common at the time, since this was the most populated region of france with a lot less people living in Paris.

This can be traced to a variety of sounds that we have in canadian french that are present throughout France as accents but not in the modern “standard french”. Such as the “eu” in “beurre”.

I don’t really have a source for this, this is what they teach us in school.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I’m not sure, it sounds like Paris was pretty happening in the 1500s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Paris

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Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_in_the_16th_century

During the 16th century, Paris was the largest city in Europe, with a population of about 350,000 in 1550.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

I’m not sure, it sounds like Paris was pretty happening in the 1500s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Paris

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