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You think Gabe Newell hates Microsoft so much that he has his company contribute to Linux and open source, simply out of spite?
I don't think that is true, but I certainly like the idea of it being true.
Yes, actually.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377
I don't think that was Gabe "hating" Microsoft; I think it was him recognizing that the Windows Store/appx stuff that Windows 8 pushed was a threat to his business model.
That is a completely valid reason to hate Microsoft. Who the fuck wants another Apple?
Yes, this is exactly the analysis that I read back then. The Windows Store presented a clear and present danger to Valve's business model, so it seems that he concluded that the best way to attack it was to make Linux a viable competitor. That's some long-term thinking right there, which seems to be rare in corporate leadership for a while now.
No one liked Windows 8. This doesn't really prove anything.
I doubt it. On the Windows platform, Valve has to do what Microsoft decides. If Microsoft decides all apps are required to go through the Microsoft store app then Valve would be toast.
Good reason to have an independent gaming OS, I suppose 😉
If Microsoft ever pulled this play at least EU probably would like to have a word. Microsoft already got kicked in the balls over here for such moves, and it hurt.
I mean he quit working for Microsoft and started Valve because he disagreed with their direction.
He has stated as much, so, yeah.
Considering he helped create Windows while working at Microsoft, and allegedly left due to the direction it was going, yes.
He doesn't want his company to be beholden to another for it's future.
Look at all the issues phone app companies have when Google or Apple just kills their businesses on a whim with a tweak of their terms of service language.
There was no mention of motive, just of the consequences. Microsoft going the Apple/Google path was/is an existential business threat to a company like Valve. Microsoft's coming up short on MS Store mitigated the risk, but still you have a platform that is geared toward Microsoft subscription revenue.
Just because those business concerns factor in, doesn't detract from the positive ways that it has gone so far.
95% of users are on Windows. If MS one day again decided they're going to try to limit apps to their own store, much like they did with Windows 8 (which is what kicked this whole thing off) or like Android is suddenly doing right now, Steam will be absolutely fucked without an alternative. So SteamOS exists to give them that parachute. They can keep the freedom of PC without the dedication of creating an entirely new desktop OS.
Not sure about hate, but the entire Steam Machine thing happened because Microsoft was making noise circa Windows 8 that they were going to take the platform more closed and require sourcing software from the Windows Store, which would shut out things like Steam. So they said "Okay, we'll make our own operating system with blackjack and hookers. We could take the PC gaming market with us, and we'll even come for the living room console market and threaten Xbox while we're at it." And if anyone in the world is going to get that done, it's Valve.
Yes, but also money.