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Government Reopening Hits a Snag After Rand Paul Throws a Wrench in Shutdown Deal
(dailyboulder.com)
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"Delta 8"? What the fuck? Do they mean "weed"?
it's a different form of psychoactive compound, it's a THC-like compound derived from Hemp. It's not the exact same molecular structure so it's technically unregulated.
I have only heard mixed reviews and reactions to the stuff, so I avoid it like all untested, unknown head-shop and gas-station drugs barely skirting the law.
edit: sources have told me that the bill's wording would allow them to absolutely decimate the legal weed market because the wording allows them to ban the sales of anything that even resembles a THC molecule. (Nobody tell them about what your brain produces or they will ban heads.)
Why spend so much effort deriving this diet-THC from hemp instead of just selling actual cannabis?
Because even in states where recreational cannabis is legal, it's still highly restricted and taxed, that's why there's usually only limited numbers of dispensaries and they have to follow pretty strict city guidelines, and still cannot be purchased with credit cards or bank cards because it's still a federally controlled substance even if the state legalizes it. Which is also why cannabis products can't normally be shipped over state lines. Cannabis is still giant headache despite being highly profitable.
Meanwhile, this shit basically doesn't even exist in the eyes of the federal government, it can be sold anywhere and bought with any currency, it hasn't even been studied enough to get scheduled and managed, and this is also partially due to the fact that every time one chemical compound gets scheduled, a couple more slight variants pop up. It's almost like people really, really want to get high and the more you try to stop people from getting high, the worse the problem gets.
Sounds like the long arm of the law should just have let the invisible hand of the market do the talking
because I can order it through the mail in Georgia without having to fly to New York every couple of months.
Because Delta 8 is federally legal. Cannabis isn't.
Since no one has mentioned it yet:
Delta-8 has a weaker binding affinity to cannabinoid receptors than delta-9, meaning it’s less potent per unit dose, but also harder to green out on.
Thank you for the education on it!
You're welcome, and I wanted to add that it's unfolding right now that the bill also is worded in a way that it can mean the ban of all sales of anything even resembling a THC molecule, which would wreck the legal market in states that have it decriminalized, and it may be because the alcohol companies are threatened by rising legal weed sales. (McConnel introduced this anti-THC amendment and he's known to have deep ties to alcohol lobbies, and alcohol sales in the US are flagging hard since decriminalization of weed.)
I work in the booze biz and the narrative that cannabis is killing our business is not that true. Most of it is price increases, the realization that "healthy consumption" of alcohol is bullshit, and a complete failure of our industry to market the products correctly.
With wine and beer we should be reminding people that drinking with friends is literally one of the most common things in history. It's a nice time even if it isn't the most healthy choice. The important thing is to not make it habitual.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/693362/drinking-rate-new-low-alcohol-concerns-surge.aspx
I don't know if anyone is saying it's "killing" the business, but if your bosses are telling you that it hasn't been harmed, they are lying to you. This is normal, even in a company you love, your bosses will lie to their employees about the state of the business, right up until the day they suddenly surprise you and say sales have crashed and they have to cut back their workforce, it's as normal in business as business itself.
And nobody is moralizing anything here, so I don't get the defensiveness, if people rather do cannabis than alcohol, that's a reflection of social trends towards a substance that is less harmful and less apt to cause hangovers and regrettable texts. I'm just talking about what others are reporting.
"if your bosses are telling you that it hasn’t been harmed, they are lying to you. This is normal, even in a company you love"
Do you really think I need someone with zero experience in my industry to explain to me what is going on as if Im a child? The fact is most of the people drinking less aren't doing so because cannabis is available as when surveyed most cite costs and health as their reasons.
Setting aside your increasingly absurd defensiveness for a moment,
Yes, I just posted that as actual data. You are getting mad and losing the plot. I don't care if you have a doctorate in alcohol, I am talking about the intersection of business and politics. Do you not think attacking alcohol alternatives wouldn't be part of a broad strategy to increase alcohol sales? Do you know how lobbying and business at scale works? Don't respond like a child and you won't get talked to like a child.
I won't see your reply anyway. Have a good one.
of course its mitch mcconnel pushing this.
I’ve never had an issue with it. It’s helped my anxiety and if they take it from me, I’m gonna be right pissed. I can’t smoke weed since my 3 stints of Covid
Like I said, it's mixed. I've heard some people found it like a miracle drug that cured their anxiety, helps them sleep, fixed the cracks in their driveway and straightened their teeth. I've heard other stories of waking nightmares and seizure-like reactions. I take it all with a few shovels full of salt.
Covid is a nightmare virus that changes your brain and body structure as well, no surprise hearing how it changes how your body reacts to different drugs.
For me it's basically what CBD claims to be.
Exactly
Can you do edibles?
Yeah, if I can get ahold of them