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When HitlerPig "won" the election, we knew that the most prolific traitor in American history was taking over the presidency, with promises to literally destroy America.
Biden had full immunity, and he easily could have said "There is no eay that im going to allow a proven traitor, who is conspiring with Putin, to take over. I am remanding him to Gitmo, with all of his henchmen, where they will remain until all investigations and trials are resolved."
Sure, MAGAworld would have screamed but who cares? Better the treasonous minority scream instead of the decent patriotic American majority.
But Biden is the typical weak spineless weenie that nearly all of our elected Democratic officials are. So he put "peaceful transfer of power" above allowing a treasonous take over and destroy our Democracy. No wonder Republicans despise Democrats for their weakness. I do too, that's why I've been an Unafilliated Independent for over 40 years. I don't want to be part of either of their sick clubs.
I think you forget that the immunity decision wasn’t for democrats. The court knows that Biden wouldn’t do shit and they would have stopped him if he tried what you said. The immunity decision was for their special boy Trump and only people that align with them ideologically.
This piece seems like bullshit. Roberts knew what he was doing, and did it anyway because he is a fascist just like the rest of the fedsoc judges.
Oh, yeah, I get it, but that's not how laws work. The law is a two-edged sword, and they aren't just for some people, they are for ALL people. Dems need to keep reminding the Nazis that the same laws they want to apply to Dems can also be applied to them.
It would have been really bad but I would have been briefly ecstatic if like all the key Republicans were just rounded up and shot for being traitors.
Probably be better off overall.
In nearly every nation in the not so distant past, and still in many nations in the world today, on the evening of Jan 6, after the Insurrection had failed, HitlerPig and all of his evil henchmen and family would have been dragged out onto the White House lawn and publicly executed.
I had posted that statement many times on Reddit, and when I posted it on the day after his Inauguration, my 12 year, million karma account was permantently banned.
And here all I said to earn a ban was that he was so unhealthy that he likely wouldn’t live long enough to reign like Putin.
Reddit is a for profit private capitalist enterprise. It has no soul and no sense of right and wrong. I'm not saying we should execute their leadership, but i wouldn't be mad if they all died
We can all enjoy our little fantasies but come on. You can't be serious.
We all have to sit back and let them have enough rope to thoroughly and irrefutably hang themselves, to have the justification to actually do any of this very serious and world changing forever kinda stuff.
You still haven't figured out that America isn't supposed to survive this. Putin is running this op, and MuskRat and Krasnov are his muscle, and the objective is the end of American democracy and hegemony. Waiting for it to play out is not an option, it is literally the safety of the world at stake.
Reps make things happen, while Dems just react, usually weakly. It is time they take the lead and start make the Reps react.
What is happening to America wasnt just predictable, they literally published it in a book, and made it very clear that this was their plan. We know that both Krasnov and MuskRat had multiple private meetings with Putin during Biden's term, and the Biden administration intelligence agencies should have been able to surmise what the coming objective was.
Biden had no obligation to treat an enthusiastic unrepentant traitor, and America's biggest national security threat, who was actively plotting with America's worst enemy, as a normal presidential candidate. We needed Biden, and the rest of the Democratic government, to quit being polite to bad people, and act courageously and decisively to defend America from an obvious domestic enemy, but they totally let us down with their spinelessness. Now it will almost certainly take violence, and very possibly a civil war, to save America from the MAGA Nazis.
It would have been civil war anyway (remember last time), and MAGA would have had justification for trying to 'save' america from people who weren't respecting the rule of law and weren't respecting the choice of the people. You want the dems to be the party of not respecting elections? They lost their chance when they didn't lock trump up, but knowing him he would have made himself a martyr and disgraced america by ruling from prison. I have to hope that the dems have a plan and are at least modelling this all out.
At least this way MAGA are doing the illegal and immoral things, which they can't twist and blame on the dems or whoever else. They can't blame the dems for the signal group chat. They can't delete government departments and blame the dems for the chaos which will follow. Do you see? They only have to be allowed to run and they will trip themselves up because they're fools and Putin can't make them smart.
Sometimes people have to learn the hard way, and its not just MAGA but Americans who don't seem to realise that democracy isn't just a given - it must be created and then defended. America got too complacent and usually it takes a war to wake a population up. So what do we do in the nuclear, postwar age? Maybe we let someone like trump fuck shit up so we can be saved and go back to a shitty mediocre version of democracy with gratitude, with capitalism reset (until next time!)
Elected officials take an oath to defend America agaist all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, and as our nation's largest security threat, HitlerPig clearly fit the description.
Biden should have ordered HitlerPig, and all his henchmen, arrested as a domestic terrorists and national security threats the moment he took office, and America would have cheered. At least the moral, decent, patriotic Americans, would have. The rest would holler, but MAGAs are cowards at heart, and most would quickly crawl back under the rock they were under before MAGA. The rest would be mostly violent White Supremacists, and other associated idiots, and could be easily dealt with like any other terrorists.
The MAGA Traitors should have been held in Gitmo with no access to the media until their many trials were resolved, not running for office, composing Project 2025, and spreading propaganda.
At the same time, any elected officials who amplified The Big Lie, and helped rile up the MAGA Mob to commit the Insurrection should have been investigated, and had their rights to hold elected office removed per the 14th Amendment/ Section 3.
Then MAGA should have been officially designated a Terrorist/ Hate Group, and prohibited. Any Sociopathic Oligarchs who were financing MAGA think tanks and candidates should have had their fortunes confiscated, and detained. You can keep your money if you are doing good works with it, but if you are financing a takeover of the world, you deserve a cell in Gitmo with the rest of the MAGA Terrorists.
All that would have demonstrated to the American people that the Democratic Party has strength, character, patriotism, and moral clarity. Instead, they chose to stick with their traditional role of being the weak, spineless weenie victims of Republican bullies.
No wonder frightened Americans are backing MAGA. They are frightened mice, looking for protection. They know the Dems won't protect them, so they hope that if they follow the MAGA rules, and allow the Nazis to operate freely, they'll be safer.
Biden and the Dems let us down by choosing the cowardly route of Appeasement With Evil, which ALWAYS ends in a much worse disaster.
You really think the MAGAs and the people who voted for trump would have cheered when he was locked up? It might have been civil war.. The kind with crazy armed people on the streets. Where the cops are joining in or turning a blind eye. It's bad now but could be much worse.
You can't lock up 30% of the population, especially when they're armed. Hopefully by the time it happens, most of the people who supported him will have changed their mind and he'll be so unpopular that only his core supporters will be a danger, if at all. I mean, this is assuming that someone over there has an actual plan... I live in hope.
The dems are being held up like some saviour but come on, they're a political party. They are voted for because they're good at running the country and performing the will of the people... The people chose this.
First of all, the people did NOT choose this, the election was rigged, we all know it, and the Dems are just being their traditional spineless selves in not demanding accountability for it.
Secondly, reading comprehension in America is terrible. Not once have I advocated for locking people up for their political views. In fact, I have repeatedly said the opposite. I ONLY want them locked up for their civil CRIMES, which are many.
I never suggested locking up 30% of Americans for being MAGA, or for their politcal loyalties. I suggested designating MAGA the terrorist/ criminal/ hate group that it is, and prohibiting from existence. If your only violation has been voting MAGA in the past, you will be fine, but if you are actively committing crimes, and blaming them on MAGA, then you should be held accountable, as any criminal should be.
MAGA leadership are treasonous criminals, but street level MAGAs are just cowards, embracing bad people because they think they can hide behind their show of strength, and the Dems have traditionally been spineless weenies who dont engender confidence. If the Dems finally committed to being a party of strength, and actually proved it by defending America against this enormous criminal operation disguised as a political philosophy, many of that 30% of MAGAs would switch loyalty instantly. Cowards go where they feel safest, and Democratic fecklesness have driven the cowards into what they see as the safest option.
None of this is about politics, it is about law & order, and a massive, well-financed criminal enterprise is taking over America, the exact same way it happened in Russia, and in Germany.
That's what I'm trying to say. If trump or the MAGAs told people that trump had been disappeared to gitmo or wherever, many of the people who voted for him would fight - for justice (in their minds). It would play into their delusions and fuel them.
I think that this won't be over until some of them (core supporters) have fought (again), because they're brainwashed and would never believe that trump should be prosecuted, even if he shot a kid dead on main street in full view of them. But let the MAGAs rule a little longer and that base is shrinking. They're exposing themselves and their lies about project 2025 etc.
Sure, they would have risen up, but at the time of Biden's inauguration, the most enthusiastically violent MAGAs, the worst of the worst, were being actively hunted by the FBI for their crimes on January 6. Most were hiding out, hoping that their family, their neighbors, their coworkers, etc. wouldn't turn them into the authorities. Some would be dumb enough to fight back, but most would do their beat to stay under the radar.
That leaves the rest, who were basically the B-Team. They didn't heed the call to Jan 6, so they had some sense of understanding of the consequences of such actions. They would have understood that HitlerPig and his henchmen were being detained for Jan 6 (we didn't know about the False Elctors or the Classified Documents theft yet), and while they wouldn't like it, they would know it's a legit charge. While they might scream a lot, most wouldn't take up arms. They are cowards, and their bark is always worse than their bite.
As for the rest, the more rabid MAGA animals, they could have been easily mopped up by the authorities. If the local cops won't help, the FBI or State can step in, deal with the criminals, and then sanction the local cops.
Sure, detaining the MAGA leadership for Sedition would have caused a huge outcry, and almost certainly some violence, but the violence that it will require to reverse them now that they are entrenched in our government will be far, far worse, and cause the deaths and suffering of many, many more.
I think it would have been better to throw the book at them back then, but I have a suspicion that the dems thought what happened was enough to turn the republic party from Trump, and if not them, the voters. Trump seems to have destroyed any and all pretence of standards in public life... He's so tacky. At this point any criminal could be US president, so long as they had a cult established before getting caught. Who could've guessed?
I saw a show about an interesting cult, the leader was a woman they called mother god. They killed the figurehead with all the wacky pseudoscience stuff she'd been on board with, but they carried on the cult afterwards. I'd guess the MAGA cult could continue being dangerous for a long time if it isn't correctly exposed and the members will hopefully drift back to their prior disorganised craziness.
Anyway trump seems to attract and gather the crazies. I can't see MAGAs following JD Vance or any of the others.
Its definitely a cult of personality that will end with his death. HitlerPig Jr has as much chance at taking over for the Old Fart as Frank Sinatra Jr had for taking over for his father.
I've heard people say that his death would only make him a martyr, but I'm fine with that. I'd rather have a dead martyr than a live traitor.
Not if they start a holy war with orange suicide bombers. Careful what you wish for!
We're going to be dealing with MAGA Traitors for a couple decades before we can fully purge them, so it might as well be with decent Americans in control.
Query= Did Putin tell 'Krasnov' to send weapons to Ukraine and train Ukrainian troops during his previous presidency?