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[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As much as I'd like to see this creature meet a firing squad, all prisoners deserve to be treated as people. I do have an issue with her "knowing the right people" and being treated differently.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

all prisoners deserve to be treated as people

eh, child sex slavery is where I'd draw the line but that's just me

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We can all likely empathize but when you decide there is a line then where that line is drawn becomes contentious.

Rehabilitate or remove from society but it shouldn’t be about punitive harm imo.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

How do you rehab a children sex slaver? I simply don't see that ever happening even if they miracously achieve some enlightenment.

Just like death penalty is a cost on our system rehabilitation can be one so as well when the odds are so against us here.
As in, are we investing millions of our collective resources for a 1% chance of rehabilitating this person or we put them in a dark cave somewhere and collectively forget they exist? Sometimes the latter seems like a better choice.

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

This is why we need a coliseum.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago

Through active intensive therapy, usually for life.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Edit: I missed. Comment moved.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's shit is abhorrent but you still can't become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don't live in that world though.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you still can't become them in order to pursue revenge

I disagree here. This would not be "becoming them" in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of "punish culture" could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as "treated as people", for these objectively horrible monsters.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there's a grey area here that's hard to approach, there's also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that's really the only reason I'm against death penalty.

Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.

The other interesting point is that suffering in "humane sort of banishment" can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we'd never see the rehabilitation?