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[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Your comment was long so I guess it’s on me for not highlighting which part I was commenting on:

I’m sure part of the hope is that the liberals will shift right far enough, that the cons won’t have a viable path to full control of the government.

I’m saying this hope is misguided. The cons are solidifying as Canada’s far right and the Liberals will never be right of center enough to make the Cons not viable.

similar to how they’d gone too far to the left recently

lol I’ll read this as “too far for their own good” instead of “too far for the common good”, then I could see how that could be a thing

I don’t really see how anything from their current situation or their historic style of government translates to Canada’s electoral stuff

And yet, PP is copying the homework

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Conservative floor crossers are a clear data point that refutes your proposition. I mean, it's pretty much literal proof to the contrary.

Similarly, the liberals right leaning bias, having gained increased support from moderate right wingers, is making more far left supporters reconsider their support of the libs -- making it fair to reason that the NDP will see a bit of a bump next time.

If memory serves, the harder-right social sorts were basically annihilated in the late 90s. In 1993, the conservatives had just 2 seats. The reform party from western Canada was originally a more socially neutral / fiscally progressive movement -- it didn't focus at all on women's rights, though it did propose some modest reforms to things like immigration and the approach to quebec. It only really became more stupid, when it morphed into the Alliance, and then absorbed the Eastern conservatives to try and gain national support -- and with those eastern cons came the social bullshit. But long and short, a fiscally conservative but socially progressive or neutral party likely still has the potential to undercut the far right conservatives.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Conservative floor crossers are a clear data point that refutes your proposition.

As much as a record snow storm refutes global warming. What would really refute me would be an election cycle where conservatives stop gaining seats while flirting with far right ideology. I yearn to see it, I just won’t bet on it.