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Elon Musk says Optimus will 'eliminate poverty' in speech after his $1 trillion pay package was approved (www.businessinsider.com)
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Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can't trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.

A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please... and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money... these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.

Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people... but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.

But, alas... It's Musk saying it so it's only to further enrich himself and won't actually happen.

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[–] Leonyx@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're confusing intelligence with cunning.

He is cunning to a tee.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 12 hours ago

He is cunning to a tee.

"Hey let's livestream me playing Path of Exile after saying I'm the best in the world, with uncensored live chat from thousands of pseudanonymous gamers with actual experience."

He's good at creating the illusion that he's a genius on a subject for the duration of an informal conversation. Steering away from topics he doesn't understand, forging signals of deep understanding by mimicking the speech patterns of an expert who struggles to put things in lay man's terms while namedropping memorized keywords, etc.

If you look at Path of Exile and the Cybertruck, it's clear that Elon doesn't know when his promises are unrealistic in a way that will make him look like an idiot. I think he has handlers, not just at SpaceX but everywhere, and those handlers are the real talent. Those handlers know how to cultivate experts that are actually good at their jobs to quietly do the work that Elon takes credit for and how to coach them to make Elon feel good about this arrangement most of the time.

[–] asRomeBurns1979@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I would have thought cunning is a form of intelligence? Using strategy and planning to apply knowledge? I’m intrigued, will have a look. Cheers. I just think people are desperate to pretend Musk is stupid because he’s turned out to be a nasty piece of work. They want to strip him of his intelligence as a way of getting back at him. I can’t take people seriously who think he’s stupid. Tesla and Space X. Come on.