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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 144 points 13 hours ago (43 children)

Why is he so against feeding the poor?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 69 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

I have to credit a random Redditor from 10 years back or so that had some excellent analysis I haven't seen elsewhere or since. This Redditor's thesis was that the GOP have two core concepts:

  1. Society is zero-sum. For someone to gain something, someone else must lose something.
  2. Each person has a certain class level in society and that each person should stay in their class. If you are poor, you should stay poor. If you are rich you should stay rich. Attempting to move up into a higher level class should be restricted by any means of government possible.

Looking at these two together explain nearly every GOP initiative or position. So lets apply it to your question:

Why is he so against feeding the poor?

Applying the first concept: For the poor to be fed (gain), those that are not poor have to pay (loss). The GOP in power are largely rich, so they see the poor being able to eat through SNAP as a personal loss to the GOP.

Applying the second concept: SNAP may allow someone to spend what little other non-SNAP money they have on things that would advance them into a higher social class such as:

  • more education to be able to earn more for higher skilled work
  • more efficient transportation allowing them to access higher paying jobs either farther away or at more available hours
  • specialized tools that could be used to earn higher income

So the GOP don't want the poor to be fed because they believe the poor should be poor and stuck there forever.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

The "logic" that anyone on SNAP is capable of paying their way up the "ladder" is complete horseshit. (though I know you phrased it as what the 1% believe, not reality in any way) Also, there is no ladder.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

The “logic” that anyone on SNAP is capable of paying their way up the “ladder” is complete horseshit.

By his own admission, the mother of JD Vance (VP) was on that era's equivalent of SNAP (Food Stamps). Her son became a US Senator and now sitting VP.

"He explained, “I was raised in a working-class family. My mother required food assistance for periods of her life. My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me. And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life. I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.”"

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 hours ago

By joining the military and using a GI Bill for state uni, scholarship to Yale.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The key word here is "paying". Nothing you provided in reply qualifies for that term. He's simply jumped from hand-out to hand-out and clearly has been looking for a way sneak out onto the upper crust the whole time.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The key word here is “paying”. Nothing you provided in reply qualifies for that term.

I'm not following you here, please clarify. The only time I used the term "pay" was in the context of the zero sum example. I don't think that's what you're referring to. The next time "paying" is used is you saying it. So I guess I need to ask what you mean when you said "paying their way up the 'ladder'". Can you explain what you're meaning there?

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nah. I'm spent. This bullshit is all too real for me and carrying on with fellow rando anons online is only hammering the dark AF reality that nothing is ever going to change. We just get used to the new fuckery every generation. Cheers.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm free to stay too, citizen.

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