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Fox News caption: BY WINNING, DEMOCRATS ARE ACTUALLY LOSING

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 37 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Actually, I can't argue this. It's true, just probably not in the way Fox intended (I have no idea what they intended.)

Consider that if Mamdani holds up his promises, the old guard Democrats are going to look like the pathetic diet-Republicans that they are and always have been. If his electoral win sparks a wave farther left across the country, and the Overton Window shifts with it, then any Democrats that don't adjust with the times will be outshined by more progressive candidates.

In that way, a "Democrat" win can result in many Democrats losing. But that's a good thing, in my opinion.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The people are reshaping the democrat party. It's slow, it's in it's infancy, but it is starting to happen. The bungie-cable on the Overton Window finally snapped and yanked the thing out of the garbage dump at the end of the scale, and people are dragging it back to a visible place and the establishment Dems are not happy about it. Because it means power structure and status-quo are no longer adequate and they are going to be out of the game.

This is why dems and Trump alike have unified to try to sabotage and invalidate Mamdani's win, because a socialist becoming so popular sets a mandate. It flies in the face of narratives against socialism and true progressive populism. It sets a tone against big corporate money in politics, and it shows that grassroots community action can topple empires. A lot of polling institutions and old-guard half-baked pundits are slinking into the shadows right now after losing their ratings for predicting that New York and the country broadly were not going to elect anyone but Trump-loyal, authoritarian strongmen.

If you want any more proof of how Sir Mamdani and his band of knights have made the old Houses bend the knee, go watch Morning Joe and listen to Joe Fucking Scarborough praising Mamdani and socialism broadly. (Albiet tepidly, it's still something I never thought I would see.)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Democratic party.

Not to be that guy, but this one bothers me since "Democrat party" is purposely used by the right as a pejorative.

[–] LumiNocta@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

It's so nice to have people explain exactly what you're thinking but can't explain!

Overton Window

I like the concept of the Overton Window (thanks for teaching it to me). However, I don't think anything quite fits in any predictable threshold of acceptable ideas right now. Trump is such a black swan, it's almost like we're defining the window in real time... If things weren't so horrible, it would be an exciting time to be alive.