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Also separate from my long response, thanks for sharing that link. Very interesting read and the GNOME window decoration issue is rediculous.
For me, I'm sorry to say, GNOME is the epitome of asshole design. This one of many examples of its rigid design philosophy having negative consequences for users and devs. And devs are protecting GNOME from its own users bad experiences because the user blames the game for not conforming, not the DE for being rediculous.
It really does feel like Linux desktop environments like GNOME and Cinnamon got stuck in 2009 and never evolved past that. Even the community feels reluctant to adopt tried-and-true design elements of modern desktop environments, like removing the title bar so users can take advantage of that extra space at the top. "Wouldn't that cause issues?" Uh, no? It never has. It's time to innovate, please.
If you think desktops are way not shiny enough, you should see this hammer I have. I've had it for decades. It's old. It's still got the dumb wooden/metal layout that's been common for a century or 5. It has no clock, no Ai, no Bluetooth. It's a fucking relic.
Piece of stale shit, if you ask me.
And don't get me started on this staedler pencil I have.
I'm not sure what you mean. Removing title bars may look modern, but it's also completely functional. I'm not even advocating for a material theme or whatever, it's literally freeing up space.
You do know the reason GNOME is pushing CSDs is to get rid of titlebars right?
No, I wouldn't know that because it's not implemented and I don't have a distro installed that uses it anymore.
We're not talking about the same thing. GNOME did get rid of titlebars, most core applications use sidebars and the rest use headerbars - which are better integrated titlebars. I suggest reading the article.
It's a none issue these days because toolkits and engines are gonna implement their own decorations anyways and for everyone else there's libdecor.