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Death of beloved neighborhood cat sparks outrage against robotaxis in San Francisco
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Yet another reason to despise AI. Animals deserve to be safe too. We've already taken so much from them as it is.
Ai has a proven track record of causing less accidents, and killing far fewer animals per km traveled than the average driver.
92% fewer accidents involving animals than the average human.
Ai doesn't drink, get distracted, or smoke meth like the ml mods.
link from the article https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-16/woman-gets-millions-after-getting-dragged-by-self-driving-taxi-in-san-francisco
People get jail time, what do we do with machines?
Hold the manufacturers and operators (specifically for company operated) accountable?
The machine is the product, not the operator. We don't jail classic cars either. We hold their operators accountable. The one in control. Self driving has a shift of who is in control - now "indirectly".
if only that were the truth.
these companies will attempt to settle for bottom dollar or drag it out so long you'll have to go homeless to pay the legal fees.
there is no justice left in the legal system. justice isn't just blind anymore, she's been decapitated.
So in conclusion, it's not AI that's the problem it's the legal system?
why not both?
There are also a lot of people out there that will intentionally swerve to hit an animal. Mark Rober made a video a long time ago where 6% of drivers went out of their way to hit animals that were just chilling on the shoulder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fp7flAWMA
here you dropped this
your figures (though I doubt them) don't include the skew of driver vs driverless vehicles. of course driverless cars are 92% less likely to have an accident involving animals. that's because driverless cars account for less than 1% of the entire vehicle population.
but it does randomly hallucinate.
My numbers are per km traveled, as stated. Capita is irrelevant.
Hallucinations aren't random, they are programmed in. They reward LLMs for guessing. Driving AI is not trained this way.
Nice misinformation and lack of understanding on what capita is.
This is really basic stuff.
Maybe if you didn't regurgitate criticisms of LLMs as being applicable to car driving AI you could construct an actual argument.
Driving AI has been shown to be very flawed (e.g. driving into a loony-tunes-esque painted canvas) and I'd be willing to bet that hitting small animals is also something they can't avoid as reliably because it's just not a profitable decision to do that, and capitalism-ho
You don't have to bring up hallucinations (irrelevant to driving AI that's an LLM thing, for driving AI that'd just be plain unreliability) or start insulting people because you don't like the (mutually unsourced) statistics claims.
I love how mad you get when you realize how wrong you are.
Lash out more.
I don't know what's more pathetic.
not that I really care about the downvotes. more amused than anything that a big talker like yourself got your feelings hurt and lashed out like a child (no offense, you could totally be a child).
posting this mostly to call out your behavior and to let everyone know just what to expect when they interact with you.
so go ahead, report this one too (because I know you're gonna).
also, mod, what's the policy for users that mass downvote another users comments out of spite? is that user conducting themselves in accordance to the community rules? also, do you think a user that votebombs other users they disagree with establishes a positive environment within the community?
no thanks, I don't feed trolls but I do block them.
"Could I be wrong in my assertion...? NO! It's people trolling me!"
Did you know self-driving cars have to report every deviation to USDOT? That includes incidents like if a driverless truck is driving at 55mph by itself on an otherwise deserted and clear stretch of rural highway and a bird flies out in front of it, that ends up on a spreadsheet somewhere. Could your driving skills survive that level of scrutiny?
the AI in cars is not the same as the AI in LLMs, it's not programmed to guess its way to a conclusion.
that being said, it's still far from perfect, and shouldn't be on the road yet.
teslas make some pretty crazy assumptions (hallucinations).
ever see the one where it sees pedestrians in a cemetery?
or how about the accidents where they veer off the road because the lines were missing.
as the comment chain below highlights, autonomous driving AI is completely different from LLMs. Computer vision and control theory have made big improvements because of machine learning, do you despise this too?