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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I hate that this idea you should cast your vote after a positive ID is a bad idea just because the country doesn't issue ID cards for people who don't have a driver license.

I hate that I agree with someone like trump - broken watches - about confirmed ID for voters, and that the happiest countries also agree that ID is required to vote.

It's weird that somehow carrying a driver license or health card (gov issued with picture) is somehow an insurmountable obstacle.

But I get the opposition. We'd have to talk about the racism and classism that keeps people from voting otherwise, I guess.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

It doesn't solve any real problem. Voter fraud is almost nonexistent. Requiring ID just adds a step that disenfranchises lots of people.

[–] Cricket@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

In the US, it can be difficult for many people to get an approved ID.

In a 2017 "Fact sheet on voter ID laws," the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) outlined the following claims:

  • Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.
  • Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
  • Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.
  • The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.

Source: https://ballotpedia.org/Arguments_for_and_against_voter_identification_laws

If those calling for voter ID laws were sincere they would first ensure that the documents ID and all required documents could be obtained for free at any government office (post office, city hall, public library, public school, etc.), but they would be the first to stop that from ever happening because their real intention is to suppress the vote of the most vulnerable citizens.

[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm kinda in the same boat here. Shouldn't the push be for making state ID cards free?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago

Yes. Or just not requiring it, as our laws are built around free movement (you don't need an ID or to ID yourself just because some official requests it), and voting fraud by individuals is very rare (while voting fraud by organizations that get power with certain elections is common).

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, but also they shouldn't be required to vote because someone could misplace it or lose it when their purse/wallet is stolen or because they haven't needed it the rest of the year or anything else that might keep them from being able to vote.