News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
I've always gotten nothing but weird vibes from proponents of hydrogen. Everyone I've ever spoken with is either sceptical and waiting for it to make sense, an unshakeable zealot, or a speculative investor who hates BEVs.
It has a place in heavy industry. But right now green hydrogen is very scarce and expensive. Until that changes, it will be somewhat boutique.
It can never work, the energy needed to make it is more then energy available from the H. It's like needing 1 barrel of oil to make 3/4 of a barrel of oil.
If that energy came from renewables then it could have some uses (wherever nothing but hydrogen will do), but yeah.
The case with transit is such that they keep trying to invent ways not to use trains, and we just have to tap our feet and wait for them to look facts in the face.
I'd say this is the least problematic aspect of all. If it was a viable energy storage solution, then it'd work even with higher energy input.
I guess you never been to the Alberta tar sands, that's exactly what they do with gas and water to make oil.
99% of the world's hydrogen comes from natural gas steam reforming. That's why the vibes are so weird, it's a fossil fuel industry distraction
It takes huge energy to produce, store and transport. Just use that energy directly. Calling hydrogen stupid was the only smart thing Elon Musk has ever said.
I'm glad the ICE hydrogen engines have been coming out. Not because they're directly useful. Outside of an engineering challenge (which is perfectly fine), they have no purpose outside of some racing applications.
I like them because it flags people who obviously have no idea what they're talking about. They like ICEs for what it is. And I do actually get that; from an engineering perspective, there's a lot of fascinating things going on inside there. However, efficiency was already hydrogen's biggest weakness. Fuel cells are 40-60% efficient, and is only one part of the hydrogen chain. You're going to replace that part of a chain with something that has traditionally struggled to get 25% efficiency? Why? You're doubling down on hydrogen's biggest weakness. This is the opposite of min-maxing.
So anyway, if they bring that up as anything other than engineering and racing purposes, they're a moron.
Yeah I've seen those, and agree. It's cool that you can do that stuff, but it's not gonna happen. Just use BEV already and build more trains.