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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 169 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Shot from behind by federal agents, seems the key missing element of that title.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you treat people as a group, they tend to lock together as a group. The police are already getting pissed off with ICE, in many places. That crack needs to be pryed open. Indifferent, pissed off police/FBI etc is a lot better than them standing in lockstep with ICE.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yah we can do more good leveraging the fact that most of these ICE agents are illegitimate and just poorly trained ticks riding on Trump's political narratives and not real federal agents.

We can make the cops hate them and support the narrative that these ICE goons are trying to usurp local authority.

Then when the tide turns and ICE is pushed back into the sea or wherever the fuck they came from, we can go back to hating on the cops. We gotta take the stairs one step at a time.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's worth noting, that the police issue in America is very solvable. Most of the Western world's police use a "police by consent" default. America's "police by overwhelming force" is the outlier. It leads to a lot of your issues over there. While they are far from perfect, the UK police are far better than America police.

It's worth looking for the opportunity to reform the police in the process, not just hate on them (ineffectively).

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

+1 to pushing ICE into the sea, and reclaiming our own.

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[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

they’re hardly federal agents

[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

while threatening them with a car. ...

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 18 hours ago

Anyone can shoot someone in a car at any time, because they're armed with a deadly weapon, got it.