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[–] houjou@jlai.lu 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

May I ask why do we hate FUTO?

[–] nycki@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they're wearing the clothes of "open source" but they run like a proverbial nazi bar: https://drewdevault.com/2025/10/22/2025-10-22-Whats-up-with-FUTO.html

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Except the person who wrote that, regardless of the actual issues with FUTO, cannot be trusted and is an unreliable source.

I really would encourage people to not treat that guy as a real source, but use it as a starting point for evaluating his sources, such as they are, on their own merits.

[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The above post isn't the first I've heard bad about FUTO. GrapheneOS has also spoken out against them

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think there could be more to it. Louis Rossmann had personal issues with the lead dev there a year or two ago due to how they interact in their forum, and I think he had some great reasons to be concerned. Since then the lead dev has stepped away as project lead, but I doubt the bad blood is completely gone.

I think it's a bit suspicious that they don't mention what feature(s) FUTO wanted. Given their interaction with other projects, I'm guessing they wanted a "supporter" badge for people who have bought the software (no change in functionality other than the badge). I'm guessing also that due to their interaction with Rossmann, they're uninterested in clarifying, esp. if it would put FUTO in a better light if they did.

Then again, maybe FUTO is a bunch of scumbags. It just seems the slant against them is so much stronger than the actual negative impact from a handful of repos having source-available licenses instead of FOSS licenses.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 1 day ago

There is 5+ more years to it than that

[–] Scirocco@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Thank you for linking this.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do you say they're unreliable and can't be trusted?

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I read this article twice now, and the only identifiable wrongdoing on FUTO's part is donating to FOSS projects without using their "institutional practice"... Which is a bizarre complaint.

The article is rife with "something ain't right at FUTO", but fails to wrap words around that statement.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They've been featuring projects on their page that they display their donations on, projects that did not know or outright refused, without their consent or understanding.

https://lemmy.ml/post/37910334

https://lemmy.zip/post/51673470

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

May I ask what the fuck FUTO is?

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The company that employed the core Immich devs about a year ago to give them a full-time salary to keep working on Immich. Founded and funded by a millionaire whose stated goal is to try and make a viable business model out of software that doesn't abuse its users