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Yes, this really is a situation where ISP managed devices could really be the right option for most -if they weren't such terrible companies.
That last part says it all, though.
The ISPs are horrible companies, mostly, and that alone warrants that users should be able to have their own router
I need a better router than my ISP wants to give me, then just give me the modem, I'll do the rest
I agree, but for the reasons above, it's a terrible outcome for everyone on the internet. The number of people who will keep their router up to date with security patches are abysmal. Fix the ISPs and it would work, but you can't fix the situation where the majority of residential humans suck at managing routers.