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Is Billie Eilish giving away her money as a millionaire?
Remember the difference between a million and a billion is about a billion. Millionaires are not the problem.
To be the equivalent of someone making $10k giving $100 to charity, a millionaire would have to give $10k.
A billionaire would have to give 10 million dollars.
While your broad point isn't wrong, it's good to separate wealth and income.
For anyone struggling with the logic on this one, alllow me to beeak it down.
1 billion minus 1 million equals 999 million, or, for all intents and purposes..
On a scale from 0 to 1 billion, 1 million is one tenth of one percent of the distance up from 0. From the perspective of a billionaire, a low end millionaire is indistinguishable from a homeless person.
While it's cathartic to hate on everyone with money when you're struggling to pay rent and feed your family, billionaires are the problem (and taste like chicken).
A thousand million
They're both part of the problem, along with their useful dipshits.
Depends on how you are defining "millionaire". If you are going by "sum of all assets is greater than $1,000,000), then 99% of the people who you say are part of the problem, are simply people who own a detached house in the right location (context for this is that the average price for a detached house in the city of Toronto is just under $1,000,000 USD).
No, millionaires are part of the problem too. Especially celebrities.
If they are doctors, then they get a pass. That's all.
Let's stop defending the people ripping us off. They only have more because we're proud to have less.
I'm going to block you now because this is not a back and forth.
Wait, so some plumber who bought a house back in the 80s is "ripping us off"?
Unless you're talking about people with tens or hundreds of millions, millionaires are largely inconsequential. Additionally, depending on where they live, a millionaire might have less usable money than someone with hundreds of thousands.
How tf Billie Eilish has ripped people off? 🤔
Charging them the most they're willing to pay while giving them the least they're willing to accept. She could do her performances on an average salary, but why would she do that if useful idiots are proud to pay her more? She wouldn't be able to get ahead of people like you if she did that, and of course you're here defending her.
You wouldn't understand this though because then you'd have to admit how you get ripped off on the regular.
Keep consuming.
You appear to be quite irritated at people asking you questions about your opinions.
From the Rolling Stones article about this same speech, it appears Eilish donated an eight figure sum of money recently. This is remarkable given multiple outlets seem to estimate her net worth also being an eight figure sum.
We lowly 'consumers' on the other hand tend only to have a five or six figure net worth, ignoring the home some of us are fortunate enough to own. None of us are donating 10-20% of our net worth periodically (except the Mormons). It seems a bit out of touch to rail against someone that appears this philanthropic when there are thousands of billionaires the same energy could be pitted against instead.
Yes, keep defending the people taking you for a ride.
I haven't defended this person. I'm not sure I've heard any of her music, even her age (born this millenia!) came as a surprise.
What I have done is attempt to politely explain a different perspective that I see that perhaps you didn't. Comments by yourself on the other hand are diametrically opposed to open thought, respectful argumentation, and basic decency.
You know well the aphorism about everyone else being the asshole, I'm sure.
Yeah, can't criticize people for how they waste their money.
That would be bad for business.
You're such a whiner. Blocked.
Unfortunately when a child is raised in environment where they never fail, they can develop into adults that perceive themselves as never wrong. This sometimes deludes these individuals into talking only with condescension to those around them, as if they are on a literal high horse where engaging a two way conversation is beneath them.
Text conversations online aren't really a good way to get through to them so knowing when to let go is key. Sad though, in a non specific way, for the people in their lives that must ask 'is so and so invited' before accepting an invitation.
Typical consumerist.
The goal posts have moved. Millionaires used to be considered part of the villainized rich group.
These days it's not been out of reach for people to become millionaires themselves. Espcially in online spaces with a lot of tech sector workers. Many of them are millionaires. So the goal post had to move.
More broadly speaking we live in a time of great inequality. The people who've been doing well are doing very well. Combine that with generations of people having higher education and higher paying careers. There's a lot more millionaires these days too as well as billionaires. A lot of them post online and get super offended you're calling them out.
As for those who are defending all that. I got no clue. Why defend them. Yikes.
she donates and volunteers with non-profits pretty regularly
If a person has hundreds of millions of dollars of worth in their pocket, they are not donating enough
I saw a few outlets estimate Eilish is worth somewhere in the tens of millions not quite hundreds. From this Rolling Stones article, also about the speech, she recently donated 11.5 million. Apparently this type of thing isn't out of the norm for her.
Equivalently, Zuckerberg would need to donate around 30-100 billion to match Eilish proportionally. To bring it back to earth, you or I would need to donate thousands - if not tens of thousands - to be proportionally similar. I won't speak for you, but I'm not in the habit of donating double digit percentages of my salary.
If she has donated 11.5 million, I would assume she has more than tens of millions.
If that information is correct, great. Either way, She certainly is no Taylor Swift (in regard to the money) on any day of the week.
Yes. She donated $11.5 million to charity and has a net worth of around $50 million. That's around 20%. If Zuckerburg did even 10%, it would be around 2,000 times more.
That's about 260x the median net worth in the US.
Yes, and? Have you donated 20% of your net worth to charity?
20% of nothin' is nothin'.