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[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

just searched youtube for “ windows 11 without microsoft account”.
there are thousands of videos still up.
people will just believe anything that fits their worldview and not check anything out….

[–] bobo@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The fact that some videos remain does not mean that some videos haven't been removed

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t understand their take at all.

“They haven’t gotten them all so THEY’RE NOT DOING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE so reactionary with your worldview JEEZ”

This is the kind of low-tier thinking that got us here in the first place.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

that’s not what reactionary even means, you zero tiered “thinker”

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just because a couple were removed doesn’t mean they were removed because of that….
if thousands of videos exist like that, they’re clearly not removing all videos like that.

[–] bobo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There isn't a claim being made that all videos showing circumvention of the Microsoft account requirement for Windows 11 installation are being taken down. Only some of them. You saying "people will just believe anything that fits their worldview" sounds like you're asserting that no takedowns are occurring. Thank you for clarifying that this is not actually your position.

The likelihood is that that this is being done automatically by youtube's AI, rather than because of requests by Microsoft. I think the real problem illustrated here is the lack of transparency when Youtube issues a takedown. An initial glance at Youtube's Community Guidelines doesn't seem to indicate a criterion by which a takedown would be automatically issued for such content, but I wonder if they're starting to automatically flag anything that might be considered circumvention guides. I had a private video taken down that I was sharing with a friend to show them how to use yt-dlp to extract audio from youtube videos and was given the same reason "harmful or dangerous content", which it clearly was not, but they're reluctant to explicitly say that they're removing videos that illustrate circumvention techniques. Yet another reason to stop using Youtube.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

there is no claim, it’s a link to a comment section that’s a link to another comment section

[–] bobo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The title is the claim: "YouTube is taking down videos on performing nonstandard Windows 11 installs"

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bobo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The claim is that some (not all) videos showing nonstandard Windows 11 installs have been taken down by YouTube. Are you refuting that?

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago

i find no reason to believe that they’re being taken down just for that or it’s happening widely… we just have one youtube channel saying their video was taken down because of that….
that sounds to me like trolls reporting them until it was taken down, people lying for clout, or it was taken down’s for some other reason.

[–] weststadtgesicht@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's disheartening, really. I fully sympathize with the efforts of software freedom and independent media platforms, but it's just so annoying how people with "my" world view are just like all other people as well – we believe what we want to believe and only question what goes against our beliefs.

I'm not saying I'm better, but I just hate it in general.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep, even on the side of the right ideas, half the people still got there via the same wrong methods that the people on the wrong side use. They just coincidentally happened to land on the right side instead. It is quite disheartening, exactly

[–] adminofoz@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

In life in general, I've found people who arrive for the wrong reasons typically make a short stay before moving on.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Its like the Tide pod thing. Two or three instances and suddenly its a wave of it happening.