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Counterpoint to all of this:
Something I’ve noticed recently in the news is that ICE makes the headlines, and then when you dig down to the details, the real problem is often CBP or some other department that’s along for the ride. Difficult to tell, I’m sure, when everyone is masked and not wearing clear identification.
Just saying that abolishing ICE wouldn’t necessarily get rid of the problem, and I suspect that there’s still a chunk of ICE you never see because they’re actually doing the work they’re traditionally supposed to be doing.
The entire system needs to be fixed, not just abolishing one department that’s been co-opted as the poster boy for the abuse of the system.
you're right, it's systemic and deeply rooted. But we also need to start somewhere, and ICE is a great start to dismantling systemic oppression
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well yeah ice is under border patrol. and that has to have a total house cleaning but they have basically destroyed the ice "brand" where it needs to be eliminated. It could be replaced but again its not something that has existed for very long.
Just a correction, ICE and CBP are sibling organizations in the DHS.
It's the whole DHS (of which ICE and the CBP are a part). It's a new department with none of the institutional history to resist large scale abuses and created with a fascist friendly mission. The others are in on it, but they don't go so wholeheartedly because there's lots of people who believe in the institution as something that will endure beyond the current administration.