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[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll take a thin skinned billionaire that donates some of those billions to feel warm and fuzzy over a thick skinned one that laughs from a balcony as people lose their homes.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll take neither. Billionaires can all go under the guillotine.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well sure, in optimism land, why not go for them all. In the real world, that wouldn't be possible given the amount of insulation they have and protection they can afford.

My meaning here is that if the choice were presented between guillotining one of them that donates money occasionally, and another that doesn't so much as pretend to give a damn, I'm going to point at the latter.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They won’t have insulation and protection if we do a socialist revolution…

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

From a quick search, there are around 3,000 billionaires with over ten trillion US dollars combined. Even if we assume the poorest of them only have a handful of security personnel, a socialist revolution in terms of pitchforks and guillotines wouldn't get far up the ladder.

These individuals have politicians strung up as marionettes, so the world's militaries aren't going to help. Surely if more than two of these billionaires end up Thompson'd, the military would probably be used to protect them.

The revolution that could work is pretty straightforward, but it has a barrier to entry. People need to vote. Not just for the top either, but all the way down to city councillors. We'd need to see landslide elections to overcome gerrymandering, but if we managed to elect a significant number of incorruptible politicians all at once, mountains could be moved in one cycle.

Oh to dream.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've checked the numbers once. Gates donated to his foundation $20B and today the foundation has over $70B. Bill, through his foundation, controls 3x more money they he donated. He's using foundation's grants to influence policy and research at a global scale. This is not about helping anyone, it's about excreting power over governments while improving his public image.

What he should be doing instead? Paying taxes.

[–] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Forgive me but while I could agree the primary purpose for his actions may not be philanthropic intent, it certainly has some positive butterfly effects - like the research you mention. Maybe it's not about helping anyone, but that's not to say that it doesn't help anyone.

Regardless this isn't the place to get into the minutiae. My point was that if we put the ten digit club in a cage and told them only one is allowed back out, I'd prefer Gates find victory than someone like Musk.