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The whole point of soldiers and basic training is to mentally break people so they do anything they are told.
Tell me you’ve never been to basic without saying it.
You aren’t taught to follow any order. You’re taught to follow lawful orders. There is a big difference.
So killing students at Kent State was lawful, and bayonetting others at UMN?
Whew..good thing they changed that law.
There was no order to fire in that incident. The guardsmen opened fire because they were"scared for their lives". That narrative has been questioned because it isn't plausible but no one ever gave an order to shoot.
Edit: I didn't see you mentioned UNM bayonetting too but after looking at that one it seems like that also didn't have an order to bayonet people. If you approach a soldier with a bayonet out who is there for riot control you might get stabbed. It's not right but it's a fact. That's just the self defense mentality of soldiers.
It's the main reason you shouldn't use soldiers in policing actions because generally we are trained to kill, not to talk nicely to people. But it's also why you train soldiers to only follow legal orders.