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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Cool motive, still interventionism. /s

Edit: That was also the official justification of Russia's invasion. I don't buy either justifications.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know what that is. NATO did an intervention on the ethnic cleansing, do you mean that?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

NATO sure as shit didn't defend any of their member nations. Interventionalism is when you invade a country claiming that it's "for their own good". See: Afganistan or the second Iraq war.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It did stop the ethnic cleansing though.

I'm not sure if interventionalism is another term for the same thing but interventionism is what I often see used for what you're describing.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It did stop the ethnic cleansing though.

The ethnic cleansing was just a pretence, though. Why is that so obvious when Russia claims a genocide is happening but not with NATO?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean the ethnic cleansing was happening and was stopped by NATO. So that's good imo

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if NATO's intervention severely increased the death toll (including ethnic albanians) and whether or not the ethnic cleansing was actually happening is at least debatable?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure someone's going to endlessly debate it

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And you just accept it. Why don't you accept Putin's justification for ivading Ukraine?

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot more evidence to support the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo than to support ethnic cleansing in East Ukraine from what I can see

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which sources did you check? Both sides (for each conflict)?

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah Russia was pissed we stopped little brother Serbia from ethnic cleansing the infidels and now makes a mockery of our altruism.

Only an idiot believes they're sincere though.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The best understander of politics entered the chat. /s

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Certainly have a better grasp of it than the guy who came to the conclusion that since America is bad then Putin must be good. You just have binary brain worms incapable of understanding anything more complex than a child's tv show.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the guy who came to the conclusion that since America is bad then Putin must be good.

Yeah, that guy must be very dumb... where is he, though? Haven't encountered him here yet.

Edit: Come to think of it: the opposite is quite widespread on lemmy: "Putin bad, so everyone against Russia: good"

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

You don't need to buy anything, you just need information literacy and critical thinking. Which is not to say you shouldn't be critical of US foreign policy - god knows there's lots to criticize. But comparing the genocide in Yugoslavia to the War in Ukraine is a clear sign of acute mental darkness or you intentionally amplifying authoritarian propaganda.

You're a loser either way because of your utter failure to take intellectual responsibility. You might be just one in a sea of millions of ignoramuses but that's not excuse

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're a loser either way because of your utter failure to take intellectual responsibility. You might be just one in a sea of millions of ignoramuses but that's not excuse

So... it's ok if I disengage after that rude comment, right? Spare me your speech on "information literacy" if you're simply planning on insulting me anyways, please. Just insult me right away. That'd be at least more honest.

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Indeed, giving up intellectual responsibility and promoting the propaganda of authroritarian regimes (I couldn't care less which ones you fancy in particular) should be named and shamed and ridiculed within the confines of the law.

Feel free to engage or disengage in whichver which way you want friend, couldn't care less, my messages are not directed at you

[–] FathachBeag@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its not critical thinking when you just parrot everything you've been told.

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Exactly! You can't just assume that the situation in Ukraine is equivalent to the genocide in former Yugoslavia. As with any claim originating from an authroitarian regime, it must be evaluated critically.

Have a nice day.