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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Useless Clown Party strikes again.

These idiots need to GTFO of office.

This is NOT what the notwithstanding clause is meant for, and at this point needs to be removed if idiots are going to use it like this.

The fact that they enforced financial penalties is sickening.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Abuse of the NWS has been progressively normalized over the last few decades, and I think we've reached the breaking point.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah.

Threatening to use it to remove bike lanes in Ontario, using it to take away rights from gay kids in Saskatchewan, using it to break strikes.

Just disgusting.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Agreed. It has to go.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Idk if it would work the same way but when this happened in BC many years ago and the gov tried to impose penalties on the teacher's union, the union took them to court and won all of that money back.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Christy Clark did Not use the Notwithstanding Clause.

She legislated a contract into being, and that was determined to be illegal.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah okay, I did not know that. Thanks for the correction. That's really shitty.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And it might even work. We're comfortable people here in the West and not really wired to take bold, scary action to protect ourselves.

The union really should ignore the fines. I'm not sure what the province could do to force them to pay up, maybe something, but I think there's a good chance they could get them rolled back after they win anyway.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doug Ford tried this in 2022 and passed a law with the notwithstanding clause...

And when the other public sector and private sector unions got together and said they're ready to take action, Ford backed down and repealed the law.

The Supreme Court should just come out and say provinces can't use Section 33 in Canada when they don't feel like collective bargaining.

BCGEU was on strike for months and Eby's government handled it properly. Now they have a tentative agreement to be ratified by members. Kinew's government is putting together a law making it transparent to people through a court opinion to list what rights are being abridged before legislation involving sec 33 was passed. Kinew also called out right wing government's liberal use of section 33 to drive wedge politics.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

There is a case the federal government is bringing right now where they argue the NWC can only be used for a limited time in crises. Which is good, because that section of the Charter is quickly becoming the only one that matters, and having no rights is a bad thing.