this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2025
402 points (84.1% liked)

Greentext

7293 readers
2097 users here now

This is a place to share greentexts and witness the confounding life of Anon. If you're new to the Greentext community, think of it as a sort of zoo with Anon as the main attraction.

Be warned:

If you find yourself getting angry (or god forbid, agreeing) with something Anon has said, you might be doing it wrong.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 36 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I keep reading about people grading on a curve and I still can't grasp what that means. Do those teachers have like a set number of A B C, or whatever, they can give out? And if they've run out of A then you get a B? And if the B run out you get a C and so on? That seems a completely intellectually bankrupt practice! If you don't want more than X people passing, then just grade people with percentages and let only the first X highest through and that's it, but don't lie with fake grades! How insane...

[–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago

basically that, yes.

though in my experience, they'd make the tests so hard that everyone would get failing or nearly failing grades, then curve up so that more people pass and some get As

only issue for them is if the average is 36% but 3 students got high 90s.. makes the curving math a lot more awkward

[–] Unlearned9545@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At my uni they'd take the highest grade of the class and reset that as the max points and grade from there.

So if max points on an exam was 120 and no-one scored higher then an 85, then an 85 would be an A, 75 a B, etc.

I'm a mediocre student but an amazing test taker and used to compete on math teams. So some of the math heavy engineering courses I would get perfect exam scores and sometimes the prof would ignore me as the highest grade. I was frustrated at first because my A didn't mean the same as someone's but I realized later it was to stop me from getting beat up by a bunch of 30 yo guys.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I still think the ABCDF system sounds so... childish? But presented like that I can see how it makes sense. I always thought about more absolute systems as more, eh, honest? More of an absolute value of our worth, but in truth it depends completely on our teachers, so it's not really any "truer" than the letter system. Just a different bias.
I'm glad there are so many interesting answers in this thread :)

Grades in the US are on a 4 point scale, with decimal values between:

  • 3.5-4.0 - A
  • 3.0-3.5 - B
  • 2.5-3.0 - C
  • 2.0-2.5 - D
  • 1.0-2.0 - F

A "good" grade in a class is 3.5 or better, and 2.0 is usually barely passing. Letter grades are used through high school, and high school and college use the 4 point scale on transcripts, and people translate to the letter grades for talking with friends.

In assignments, you get a percent rating, with 60% being barely passing. There's a lot of granularity there.

Grading on a curve means the professor expects a certain distribution of scores, so of everyone scores poorly, the test is bad, so the scores are readjusted according to that expected curve. If people outperform, then there's no curve and you get the score you get.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The curve means the class's scores is fit onto a bell curve. X% pass, Y% fail, etc all according to the predetermined standard bell curve. Doesn't matter if the class is full of Einsteins or dunces. If 30% is the highest mark in the class then that's an A+, and so on.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Usually if everyone gets high scores, a curve isn't used. The curve is only used if most people score poorly to make up for a bad exam or something.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You still "need" people to fail, so

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, you don't. That's not how a curve works, the curve merely improves scores. If a curve would lower scores, it's not used.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you have more details? Because I've never heard of a curve being used to hurt students in a class, only to help make up for a bad exam.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Grading on a curve is indeed that, and it should be criminalized because of how much it harms students

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How does it harm students? A curve is only used if the grade distribution is below expectations. All it does is cover for a bad test or something.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because if the next cohort is simply performing better you force some students to be graded below their performance, which is unfair punishment, and if they're worse then some will be graded higher. It's especially unfair when the composition of students changes rapidly or when used over very mixed groups of students.

Grading should be decided based on achieved learning targets, not group rank. It's not a fucking sport.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've never heard of a curve being used to adjust scores downward, only to adjust them upward.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago

I've seen dozens of examples