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"Whose fault is the shutdown" is kind of a weird way to approach it, when you think about it. Really, the government shuts down because one side wants A and the other side wants B and they can't or won't compromise, so it's the fault of both.
At the end of the day, the side that wants the less popular thing should get blamed. In this case that's easily the Republicans.
Or, alternately, the side that isn't negotiating in good faith which, in this case, is also the Republicans.
I remember headlines before the shutdown where Trump specifically instructed GOP members of Congress not to work with Democrats.
Seems open and shut to me.
When one side has refused to even attempt to negotiate, or even include the other side in any part of the process at all, desire needing their votes to pass it...You can very easily lay the blame on the Republicans.
Especially when Republicans are bragging about all the crimes they think they get to commit while the government is shut down
Not to mention that they have already suspended the filibuster three times already, there is no reason they couldn't do it again for this.
Those were for different things. The issue, as always is, if this backfires and they lose the Senate, them it's easier to remove their bullshit. And Republicans have heavily relief on obstruction of Congress for the last few decades
It depends on how you look at it, but since Republicans have control of every branch of the government, the fact they can't break the shutdown looks really bad.
Republicans just need to sway something like 5 democrats across all three branches of the government and can't. You could argue it's the democrats being intransigent, but it's not like democratic constituents aren't hurting.
What all this really means is that even though Republicans control everything, they are hated so fiercely that democrats can hold their position without losing support. It seems the opposite isn't true and republican constituents are getting angry. That seems as close to winning/losing you can get.
also the the democrats demands are reasonable, bordering on limp wristed. the republicans labeling them as radical leftist demands are patently absurd. even Marjory Taylor Green is advocating for what the democrats are demanding right now.
the populace blames the republicans because you can try to rig the game but you can't fake influence.
Democrats are holding up closure and Republicans haven't totally abandoned the filibuster mechanic. So they keep holding closure votes that need 60 Senators and failing to get a supermajority.
Angry enough to do what? They're living in red states and red counties, owned and operated by Republican loyalists. Their votes don't matter, because their elections are fully captured by a corrupt administration.
And all that "2A Remedies" crap just clears the way for Nick Fuentes to take over from Charlie Kirk.
I'm not saying it's going to matter (it may or may not). All I was calling out is why you might consider the Republicans losing this particular battle.
When you're hold most of the cards and still can't accomplish what you want, that seems like a loss.
Given that national security services continue to receive funding while the civilian administrative state is on indefinite furlough, I've got to ask why you think Republicans object to this arrangement?
Who says Republicans aren't getting what they want? We've got no budget but we can still bomb random boats in the Caribbean and drag people around by their hair in Pasadena. Milei got $40B in USAID money gift wrapped to him on the eve of his party's midterms. Trump's jet-setting to East Asia to be wined and dined by our most loyal satraps, while the White House undergoes a corporately financed face lift.
What isn't this administration accomplishing, exactly? Oh no! We've got no money for SNAP, a thing conservatives have always deeply cared about!
*cloture
The Republicans could ditch the filibuster, pass whatever they want, and have the government open first thing tomorrow. The shut down is 100% their choice at this point.
Blamed by whom? Its two Senators per state. If California's senators say they want X and Wyoming's say they want Y, the fact that California is 100x larger doesn't matter to Wyoming voters.