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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Look, you may be a wonderful person. I know very little about you individually.

But, by your own numbers, the best we can say about almost 3/4 of Americans is that they are complicit in what is happening. The last election proved that they are at least “ok” with a second Trump administration even after everything that was said and done before election day.

Given that, I hope you can understand why the rest of the world needs to take a different view than “most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist”.

Your own evidence (that you presented) does not support your conclusion.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My only conclusion is that the pain numbers haven’t reached a point that requires action. Most people can’t see the forest for the trees and are painfully oblivious to what is going on because of whatever reason. Stupidity, willfully ignorance, it’s hurting the”right” people more, etc.

And by “my numbers” it’s more like 50%-60%. I just want you to understand that just because the government is doing it, doesn’t mean a plurality of the citizens feel the same way. Hell even some of the most ardent GOPers are starting to balk at the shit that’s happening.

Now, with that said, I would not come to the US as a foreigner for any reason right now whatsoever. It’s just not worth it.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

By your numbers, 30% of Americans voted to keep Trump away from the Presidency. The other 70% did nothing to keep him out of office.

70% of Americans were happy enough with a Trump presidency that they at the very least did not lift a finger to prevent it. And 50% of the 70% actively supported him.

Was there a car show on that day?

Why now do we want to say that the 70% that enabled Trump “do not feel the same way”?