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Wasn't Paul the only one that said that? Plus, it wasn't a new religion at the time. They all considered themselves Jewish at least until 70 ad.
None of the apostles said this directly. It's literally the central dogmatic point everyone shares post schism. If Christ's death isn't redemptive there's no point to the faith at all.
Again, not a new religion. They were a sect of Judaism.
It's what makes them a new faith.
What's "It's"?
The notion that Christ was God’s son whose death redeems the world of sin? The entirely different relationship with God that Christians have that derives from that concept. It’s why Christians are not a sect of Judaism.
Again, then why did they call themselves Jews until at least 70AD? I guarantee that every single apostle called themselves a Jew until they died. I think your brain isn't wanting to hear this and blocking what I'm saying. It doesn't change your religion other than making it more Jewish, why would that be bad?
Yes, 2000 years ago the ethnic Jews that were Christians considered themselves to be Jews. That ceased to be the case within a few years as Paul’s ideas are adopted and the people joining aren’t Jewish and do not follow Jewish laws and traditions.
It’s a new faith because they frame it as such. If you were Christian and called yourself a Jewish person you would get weird looks.
It was a sect of Judaism at one point but that was thousands of years ago.
70 years is a few generations. Just saying. I'm not saying Christians are Jewish now, the Catholics changed all of that. I'm saying it was originally a Jewish sect. I think you're agreeing anyway, have a great day.
originally yes they were but by the time Paul’s writing becomes cannon it no longer is. That’s the 80s?