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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about an organization, I'm talking about actual leadership. There's a difference. There's no Martin Luthor King for the Free Palestine movement, there isn't anyone that can call out the bad actors who are manipulating the movement for their own ends.

The BLM movement as you mentioned got associated with a shady organization. There wasn't a respected leader that can say "we have nothing to do with that shady organization" so it was kinda convincing to some. But since there were enough existing leaders from the Civil Rights era and politicians to explain it, the message got across well enough to many people.

The Free Palestine movement doesn't have anyone that can do that. There was no one within the movement brave enough to denouce Hamas the day after October 7, so the movement is associated with Hamas. Which means it's associated with the genocidal acts of Hamas. So the constant screams about genocide by the movement sound hypocritical to any bystanders. There were a few politicians like AOC that had sympathy for the movement that were harrassed for failing to pass the purity tests of the worst people in the movement. The Free Palestine movement is unable to form alliances with anyone. It's carcinogenic to mainstream politics because no one can trust those within the movement to not say something overtly antisemitic. And those fears are confirmed when people in the movement talk endlessly about it being the Jews preventing them speaking at an event.

It's gotten to the point where I don't think it's possible for there to be a leader of this movement now. It's not possible to pass the purity tests of the radicals that want to be more radical than everyone else.

The game of one-upmanship has made the Free Palestine movement is completely out of touch with the rest of the world. There's protests at syngogues, harrassment campaigns against holocaust museums and somehow y'all believe the rationalizations about these actions not being antisemitic. Nobody outside your little group believes those rationalizations.

You're just a hate group to the people that don't frequent your online forums.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

What bad action do you think is happening? The "constant screams about genocide" are because the genocide is constant. You're throwing around the world "hypocritical" like it has no meaning. Even if you disagree with the group, what have they done that would make then hypocritical? Being the first person to call someone a hypocrite isn't an instant win for internet arguments.