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[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hate speech crosses a line. There are exceptions to the first amendment. People can get sued for defamation. People can go to prison for making threats or conspiring to commit a crime. Hate speech directed at a protected class should also be punished.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think anyone’s opinion can be considered hateful. There are many rules to what is classified as defamation to protect free speech. Saying you don’t like a group of people online is far from hate speech or defamation.

Which is why firing someone because you don’t agree with their personal opinions is fucked up, no matter what they are. It might be a bit different when your on broadcast news and “representing” the corporation.

[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did specify protected class. That means no hate speech towards people based on race, culture, nationality, and ethnicity, gender and sexuality, religion, age, disability, etc.

Note that political affiliation and wealth are not protected classes.

I do not think it is dystopian or fucked up to fire someone because of hate speech. I would not want to be treated by a bigoted nurse. I wouldn't trust that they would treat me properly. And I wouldn't want to work with a bigoted person. I would be afraid of them. These people are bad for companies and cause loses. They should be fired. And that's just looking at it from an economical point of view.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It sounds like you’re acting as Judge jury and executioner for somebody’s personal opinion. If it’s affecting their job or how they’re treating people that’s different. That’s a separate issue. But for somebody to make a joke or to express how they disagree with something And lose their job over it because the establishment they work for might not have the same view IS messed up. Your Personal views towards anything should not dictate whether or not you get to keep your job. It is your actions within the workplace that determine that.

[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

The issue is that they are causing real harm by expressing those views. I know that there are people out there who hate me just because I exist and I know that will never change. While their words do not directly hurt me, they have the capability to incite physical violence against me which definitely can hurt me. It is not just me I worry about. My heart breaks for the victims of hate speech. People kill themselves because of it. People get murdered because of it. That is why it needs to be illegal.