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[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 102 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, 1st ammendment is being suspended?

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The first amendment has never protected people from losing their jobs. If I go in one day and call my boss an incompetent, micromanaging asshole, I’ll get fired. I can’t just yell first amendment and keep my job.

Now if you call your representative and tell them they’re an incompetent, cowardly, fascist piece of shit, and then you get arrested, well now that would be a first amendment issue.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

unless they’re being fired because the president wants it that way

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, most places in the US are at will employment, so it doesn't really matter what was said, if an employer wants you gone, even if it's due to outside pressures, they just have to say the word.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

^ this - don’t sign at will contracts - push back (easier said when self employed)

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are teachers not government employees in America?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 3 days ago

It depends on the institution.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Not at private institutions.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

1st admendment has been fucked since the PATRIOT act

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is weird how "free speech" is there for the right, but not anyone else.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All non-fascists need to start punishing the fascists for their speech. We've been way too tolerant for way too long. Shout them down, ostracise, refuse service, etc.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember when Huckabee being denied a cheese plate or Rand Paul being followed by people asking him questions had them quaking in their boots and pretending they were being terrorized for such behaviors.

Imagine if it was a coordinated effort to just merely ostracize and verbally challenge these people? God, they'd be in a fetal position. They really do believe they are their god's gift to humanity and NO ONE has any right to question them or push back even if ever so mildly.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 50 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If ONLY they Would have Posted Charlie Kirk's message of Murdering Gays and Blacks and Transgendered people INSTEAD then they would Still have Jobs!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's the truly fucked up thing here. It's extremely asymmetrical.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

They can say whatever they want and if you disagree your against free speech. The left can't say shit as you'll be arrested.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

And promoted.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (28 children)

Teachers, just like every American, should be able to say what they want in their off time, especially politically. This is just another disgusting move by our country.

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[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Free speech, only if you are Charlie Kirk

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure he ended up paying for his

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

1990s - don't put your name on the internet.

2000s - don't put your name on the internet.

2010s - it's cool to put your name on the internet because Zuckerberg says so

2020s - Fascist regime is suppressing all thoughtcrime.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

“It has been brought to my attention that some Florida educators have posted despicable comments on social media regarding the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk,” said the memo, signed by Florida education Commissioner Anastasios Kamoutsas. “I will be conducting an investigation of every educator who engages in this vile, sanctionable behavior.”

Oh shut the fuck up, you fucking chode. Please, kindly, go fuck yourself, loser.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol this is a trial run for Trump's death. It won't prevent us from celebrating. Fuck em.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of the teachers, under threat of unemployment, are from the fucking Red Run neo-Nazi Oblasts. The Blue States should offer them employment.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

As an adjunct myself, wanted to see how widespread it is but this doesn't seem to be. We're usually first on the chopping block, but a dozen firings isn't very many overall when there's thousands of people teaching. I think similar happened when we celebrated Luigi, too, and both are pretty popular opinions with students.

Still, always be mindful of your online footprint and what you say in front of students in particular. You're dealing with whole groups, so even if it's a 90% popular opinion, you'll get one asshole who may report you anyway. That includes religion, too, which is especially tricky when you're an atheist teaching psychology and have to address shit regarding free will, evolution and why we have guilt and such.

But hey, we're pretty fucking free to say what we want on Lemmy, it's so obscure that I'm not even sure the government watches it.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

when there's a school shooting, it's always a tragedy. when someone dies in a school shooting, it traumatizes people ∴ it's a tragedy. when the target of a school shooting is not a child, we get to breathe a sigh of relief. gonna be honest.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There was a school shooting the same day and we celebrate some podcaster rather than the children that are gone. It's fucking stupid.

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[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

"Land of the free."

Suuuuuuure...

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

better see some successful wrongful termination suits in the news

[–] BandDad@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

First amendment for the, but not for me.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's a whole lot of easy lawsuits.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

How many people were fired for mocking Paul pelosi’s attack?

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