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[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The US of Trump isn't a good brand from the outside view. From a European perspective it's an absolute clown show and it's unbelievable how long it's going on and people still taking any of it seriously. I mean the consequences are serious but none of the arguments and things being said. It's obvious nonsense, a lot of people are calling it out but seemingly an equal number of people just tries to spin it into 4D chess moves with even more bullshit.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Its an absolute clown show from some of us inside the US too, but I've been saying "look at the clown!" ever since he entered politics and I don't know man. People just keep telling me why they like the clown guy and his stupid red nose, and I'm just so tired. So tired and alone.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have never felt more alienated in the country that I was born and raised in than I do now. It’s equal parts infuriating and horrifying.

All I’ll say to my European friends is that I hope they keep the science / engineering / skilled worker incentive programs open for the brain drain that is doubtlessly going to accelerate, because I think I’m going to take advantage of that next year.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Every election since I turned 18 made me feel more like an alien in my own country. A country my family’s lived in since the 1730s.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

You’re not alone, I’ve disliked him for over twenty years and have been saying the same since he entered politics. Unfortunately, 1/3 of our country refuses to have the slightest bit of introspection on the matter and there is probably another 1/3 that’s too uninformed/misinformed to care. He’s managed to gain power at the absolute worst time for a moron like him to have power and our checks and balances that are supposed to prevent what he’s doing we’re all based on there being decent people in power to stop him.

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

We are not alone. And we should be getting louder.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and alone.

It's because the government had already (via the zoning code) destroyed most "third places" where people used to get together in person, and the billionaire-controlled traditional media and social media have conspired to suppress anti-fascist sentiment online.

Feeling alone is how They want you to feel.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Well sure, but knowing that doesn't fix the problem

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

For me personally, I don't think Trump is the real issue, he is a mere symptom. The cause lies in American society (not all of it or course). And when I say American society, I don't necessarily mean exclusively Trump supporters.

The shallow polemics about freedom of this and that (used as a signalling device to show how "good" and "independent" one is), broad acceptance of corruption, criminality, oligarchy (especially when marketed in context of freedom and independence etc.), lack of desire to be informed about things outside of the hustle/money and pop culture.

But the real issue that makes the above points so toxic in context of the US (you can of course find these issues anywhere) is that most Americans are simply too well off (on a relative basis) and risk averse to support true reform and power anti-crime policies.

And as the US is a defacto two party system, it makes it impossible for any meaningful political movement that opposes criminality and corruption to take hold.

That's the impression I got from living there for several and visiting somewhat regularly at one point.