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[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (7 children)

My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US....and the fallout is going to be anarchy.

I have to believe that Biden's team looked at what the fallout would look like, and their reaction was "Oh....my....god. What they did was fuckjng horrific, but the country will literally implode if we release this."

I'm all for releasing it, we need a bit of a hard reset/wake up call.

Apparently it is safer to leave these blackmail compromised people in powerful positions.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

people need to treat not releasing the info as though the files have the worst possible contents

hard reset is definitely needed

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Not Bernie! [sigh] Release them anyways.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

The country won't explode, it will destroy the pedophiles legacy and future though, which is death to them. Nearly everything biden does is do gaslight people into thinking he was a great person.

It’s already imploding. Let’s just implode faster. Push the reset button!

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Releasing the list is damage control.

The Epstein list is really just a focusing lens of much greater rage at billionaires and the elites that cover for them. They either throw some meat to satiate the wolves at their door or the wolves will want to come for them all. Americans are too American to admit their rage is all really about wealth inequality.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wish that were true, but it isn't. A majority of Americans are too propagandized to be mad at the rich. They believe in capitalism deep in their souls, because schools have been teaching that capitalism is the best system in the world since at least the end of WWII, never mind that the US isn't even a true capitalist state.

A majority of Americans believe capitalism is a meritocracy, and that everybody who wins at capitalism is a superior person who got there on their own merits, because that's what they've been taught their entire lives. Fortunately or unfortunately, a large minority of Americans have also been completely failed by their education system and their news system, so they have all kinds of other magical beliefs, like that there's a cabal of rich and powerful who are draining children of adrenochrome. It's a really stupid conspiracy theory, but it just happens to end up pointing them at the right targets for the wrong reasons.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Interesting point of the day

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Well what you're deciding to believe about that is just wrong. Members of the Biden administration did assist (D) senator Wyden's investigation into wire transfers of billions of dollars to Epstein, which is still ongoing and he has published a list of dozens of names that he found records of financial involvement with Epstein. That investigation which Biden staff cooperated with is being blocked by Trump's staff currently.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

My concern is that neither side has released a list because its going to be insanely ugly. Like the most powerful people in the US....and the fallout is going to be anarchy.

Yeah, sure. Anarchy. Let's say everybody Epstein ever hung out with is rounded up and executed. Even if that does mean that 95% of US billionaires are executed, you think that's going to result in anarchy? It's just going to finally give a chance to people who aren't rich. The only possible "anarchy" would be from these rich people refusing to go quietly. But, the rich never go quietly. They'd refuse to go quietly if it was a 2% wealth tax, and not an execution.

Also, don't forget that after his first arrest, Epstein was more or less radioactive. That was in 2008, 17 years ago. Prince Andrew did meet with him in 2010 and it was a huge news story because he obviously should have known better.

So, let's say that anybody who was 18 or younger in 2008 is safe from suspicion. Anybody younger than 18 in 2008 was possibly a victim, but was presumably too young to be preying on these underage girls. How old are those 18 year olds now? They're 35. They're old enough to run for president in 2028.

I say fuck the gerontocracy. The only people who are 100% above suspicion are the ones too young to have been involved with Epstein. Let them run things.