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I'm actively looking for a new phone that has 0 Google in it, and am looking ad de-Googling the rest of my life.
I remember being genuinely hyped about Gmail in 2008. Now, I don't want them accessing any of my data.
I’m taking steps, slowly, as well. I’m getting off windows very soon, I’m working on getting off of various services these companies run one at a time. Depending on what really happens with Android and Google we’ll see.
Another way of deGoogling would be to, ironically, use a Pixel phone and side-load a privacy focused OS like Graphene or CalyxOS. With them, literally everything needs express permissions to be used, whether it's your camera, location, microphone, etc. You can even sandbox the Play Store and other Google services so they can't access your deeper files.
CalyxOS is not hardened in any way and is in some ways less secure than stock AOSP. They are also on a hiatus and have discontinued updates: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24791-departure-of-calyx-calyxos-leadership-and-discontinuation-of-calyxos-updates
Huh... That's news to me. When I was first looking into it, that OS was mentioned here and there. I ended up putting Graphene on my phone and left it at that, so I didn't even bother keeping up with any of the other stuff.
Well, because it's wrong. Graphene fanboys usually just repeat what the lead devs says. This user's comments can be found almost 1:1 in the GOS forums from the official account.