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such a funny time for this discourse again ☕

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ironically, leftists are more in line with the constitution with our reasoning around gun ownership. In my book, anyone who isn't happy with the lax state of gun laws is equally an ally and we shouldn't draw lines in the sand for no reason. You can both own a gun and want it to be harder for people who shouldn't get them to get them, it's almost as silly as the "you criticize society and yet you participate in society" argument.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't know. I don't think we really are good at deciding who should and shouldn't have a right. there seems to be something fundamentally broken in that

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Circumstances change, that's the main fundamental issue. At the same time, we don't even check for problems during a lot of gun sales. I would say domestic abuse charges, history of suicidal behavior or terroristic threats, etc. There are at least lines we can draw without it being a free for all or a massive lockdown. Admittedly, it's mostly so we can feel we're at least trying something in the face of our children being killed that may actually make an impact in some of the examples.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

okay that's valid and noble. I would like to live to see society change like that

but why do you think they want us disarmed before the change happens?

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, with conservatives, it's always about targeting those they don't like. I wouldn't be surprised to see anti gun legislation coming from the right that holds those already owning guns immune, but new buyers since November 2024 ineligible. I think we more or less agree?

yeah, probably. I'd bet on them somehow rolling it into concerns about immigrants and how "only real citizens get 2a rights".