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[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 41 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Ah yes, the consumers having no real practical alternative between apple and android means they support all the bullshit Google is forcing onto android ^/s^

How do you propose I vote with my wallet when using something like grapheneOS requires buying a pixel?

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

GraphineOS is the epitome of paying against your values then using foss without giving back.

Murena sells phones with e/os already installed, and there seems to be others too where you can buy a phone: iodé , jolla, pine64, pureos,

[–] Binzy_Boi@feddit.online 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I spent $500 on a Murena only for the thing to brick a month later because the cord or whatever connecting the rechargable battery to the rest of the phone somehow split off. Would've been open to shipping the thing back to them for a repair/replacement since a local shop was unable to do so, but they use UPS for shipping and there was no way in hell I was going to deal with the absolute mess it was to receive the phone to begin with a second time.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You did get the fairphone model right? The one brand that’s repairable?

[–] Binzy_Boi@feddit.online 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I bought the Murena One since it was the cheapest model that was close to the specs of my phone at the time. Figured $500 was already overpaying considering how much lower cost my previous phone was, but also, who the hell thinks about a $500 phone bricking in a month? I just find it inexcusable regardless.

I remember wanting to get the removable battery, but they didn't offer that with the One, and I'd be losing specs if I got a model in my budget that did have one. I also wasn't going to spend over a grand for a phone with the Fairphone models available through them at the time.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 hours ago

Even with Graphene, it's increasingly likely that it'll be dead to new Pixels in the coming years. And I say that as someone posting this from a Pixel 9 running Graphene.

[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

The time to support Android was 15 years ago when you could install any OS on any device, side load anything you wanted, root, mod, replace your battery, have full control over your file system, expand your storage, etc. Or 10 years ago, when Google was selling completely unlocked developer oriented phones, offering most of its services for free, opening sources, and actually innovating in fields like computational photography while also researching interesting concepts like modular phones.

If you feel like you can't vote with your wallet today it's because the market as a whole has abundantly shown that it really doesn't give a fuck about any of those things, and it will always give the dominant position to whoever markets more aggressively or more effectively, even if the business models of those companies go against the consumers' interests.

People in 2007 jumped at the chance to buy a ridiculously overpriced phone with no physical keyboard, a VGA camera without flash, no MMS or 3G support, no apps or customization whatsoever, no expandable storage, no battery replacement, terrible repairability, locked in to proprietary accessories and software, and so on. This, while the competition at the time was putting out cheaper phones with things like OLED screens, professional optics with xenon flashes, dual SIMs, microSD support, the latest connectivity standards, etc.

And when Apple patent trolled, took away things like the headphone jack, or normalized imposing ridiculous costs and taking huge cuts from developers, did people stop buying their products? No, they bought more.

I'm not defending Google at all. Their decline is abhorrent, but it's a corporation, and corporations will always choose profit over everything else. It's really naive to think they'll offer their customers the more ethical option just out of the goodness of their hearts, especially when the market has been taking for granted or even actively discouraging the things that positively differentiated them from the competition.