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That's what he gets for being a lying idiot nazi prick.
Tesla also makes inferior cars. Tesla also has a big unneeded tv in the car. Tesla car is a kind of an early access with their bugfix patching. Teslas' main product is also your data.
Tesla cars were a very good prospect until pretty much this year. Most people are fine with everything being on a big dumb screen instead of having proper buttons (even though it's a usability and safety nightmare) and once you get past that, they're comfortable and practical - and well-priced compared to the non-Chinese competition.
But now, Elon outed himself as an actual Nazi, and took away proper indicators and gear selectors.
Don't most them don't have a mechanical way to open the door? Like if the battery dies or there is a software glitch you legit can't open the fucking door. Ppl have literally died cause their shit ass doors only unlock electrically.
The normal way to open the door is with a button that cracks the window slightly, because the door does not contain an upper window frame for aesthetic reasons. However, there is a mechanical release.
What you will be thinking of is that on some models (I can't remember which exactly) the mechanical release for the rear doors is not in an obvious place, so if you need to get out in a hurry, u gon die.
This is obviously moronic design and risks lives for no practical benefit, but most people don't base their purchasing decisions based on what might go wrong in a tiny number of crashes. You could compare it to a decision to buy a luxury car rather than a normal one: that's tens of thousands of currency units that you could set aside to retire a year early, or in case you or some close to you hits bad luck. The practical choice is to buy the normal car (or the non-Tesla), but the likelihood that it will be important is very small, so it's not really crazy to make the non-practical choice.
There's plenty of cars without rear doors at all, never seen them criticized the way people criticize the "non-obvious mechanical release" of teslas. It's basically grasping at straws to justify the hate of musk, as if he he didn't do enough shit himself already to fully justify all blowback.
Yeah it's a common thing - if people don't like something, they will be very critical of everything related to it. Many people are not capable or even really interested in being fair; if you mention this you will be accused of "defending" them.
I've just realized the back seat of my two door car is a death trap thanks to your comment.
... Good thing nobody ever rides back there and it's just used for storage.
In those cars the front seats fold down super easy (usually pull one lever or press one button) so you can just get to the front doors which usually have fairly obvious opening mechanics.
now everyones reporting issues with the regular cars to, that they dint do it for years?
What do you mean?
Comfortable is subjective. Model Y suspension was certainly crashy when I rented one for half an hour for the lulz
I used to think the same, before I bought a (non-Tesla) EV myself. It's very convenient to have some entertainment other than your phone during charging stops.
It would be nice if there were some thought into charging stops. Like I want a halfway decent sandwich and a coffee while I'm here. Usually, all I get is the far end of a Walmart parking lot. If there's anything in walking distance at all, it's probably across a stroad with no pedestrian signals.
Oddly enough, EVs are better in walkable cities.
Everything is better in walkable cities
if i owned a restaurant, i would KILL for a bunch of chargers. think about it! your stuck there for like at least a half an hour. why not just grab a bite? your a captive audience at that point. or theaters? gas stations seem to be the WORST place for them, because their need for fast turn around.
what i would have done with gas stations would be to have a battery swap system, sorta like a propane tank refill. now the cars would have to be designed where some batteries would have to be slotable by the user, but a benefit would be instant charge using a battery subscription deal. it would also effectively remove the max mileage concern from EV entirely, and the gas stations would not need much retro fitting at all.
Several groups have tried battery swapping. It just doesn't work very well.
oh? what was the problem?
Standardization, designing the whole car around it, and the complex mechanisms to automatically change the system. Batteries are heavy and need chonky, high current connections. Those connections are easier if they're wired in and left alone for the life of the car. Also, can't take advantage of making the battery more integrated into the frame to reduce weight.
It's not a new idea. Whole bunch of companies tried it and failed to go anywhere. Formula E ruled it out for safety reasons; in earlier seasons, drivers swapped cars instead of packs.
Aren't some ebike companies in Asia operating on swappable battery packs, I guess it's a matter of those batteries being smaller
Yeah, that engineering problem isn't in the same order of magnitude.
Nio does battery swap stations. Never tried them myself, but they don't seem to be very successful, at least not yet. My main problem is that you don't own the battery and have to permanently rent it (which makes sense, since you swap it constantly). The costs long term don't make it very attractive, especially since it solves a problem most people face like once a year, when going on vacation.
well, someone else mentioned problems with it on an engineering level that would be an issue.
but my main thought was that the car would have to be designed in a way where the car would still have its normal batteries, but could slot in additional batteries, and you would handle it just like swapping out propane tanks at a gas station
Charge stations should be on the Italian Autogrill model. Only in Italy can you get the best food in the country at a gas stop.
Hell yes. Unfortunately the Tesla chargers here are not at the Autogrills and you have to get off the motorway and usually into some random hotel parking lot for those. But there will be other fast chargers right at the Autogrills so I end up using those 🤷
The problem is actuarial data that shows Teslas have more frontal collisions which is because of the screen which is on track to being banned in EU. The second problem is the brittle cast aluminum frame shit out of Giga presses that makes most collisions a right off. Hence very high insurance costs on the Teslur.
musk, eliminated QC, because it was preventing him from selling them quickly, and its too expensive to add in quality materials.
it is one of the reasons he doesnt use LIDAR in the newer models? waymo is already way ahead of tesla robotaxis, eventhough its still limited right now, musk was too late to the game. although he couldve used this to slow down the pump and dump scheme thats going on.
Also, the big screen is very well designed in a Tesla. It's difficult to move to inferior UX models like pretty much every other car is after experiencing it. I've practically never used it for "entertainment".
You can have a big screen in your car and physical buttons to control things, also anyone can carry a tablet in their car for entertainment as well
Ehh, have you ever seen a BYD? All their models are essentially "Tesla but more obnoxious".
I did not. Not the cockpit. I'm sure it's bad as well. For me any touch control in the car is bad news.
And with a virtual assistant.
Not even that ..
BYDs are better and cheaper than pretty much any other EV. That's why Americans can't buy them.
And why Americans can't afford used cars.
https://www.financefling.com/how-much-would-a-byd-car-cost-in-the-usa-in-2025/
Even after current tariffs, it's cheaper than everything else.
The vast amount of Americans are suffering so a handful of wealthy ones can get even wealthier.
I’ve read a number of European reviews of the byd dolphin and most I’ve seen have compared it unfavorably to European EVs
Looks like the average Euro EV is ~44k and the dolphin comes in under 30k, under 25k in UK....
It definitely doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's a shit ton cheaper.
The people writing reviews for brand new cars have a target demographic: people that routinely buy new cars.
The majority of people won't have the same priorities, especially these days.
EU has a dozen EVs under 25,000. Average car costs are misleading, the mean is a more important number.
The problem with auto reviews is that they are all advertising. They never mention reliability as a concern. Australia killed off local GM and Ford production and they brought in Chinese EVs two years ago. Consensus already is that they don't last.
BYD's biggest advantage is the government subsidies it gets from China. In the EU, they get tariffed to protect local automotive companies from unfair competition (I.e nation-state supported automotive companies that can literally sell their cars at a loss). Thus, BYD loses its appeal.
They usually compare it to cars of a similar size, instead of similar price. and yeah, when you're buying a car of the same size that's 5k cheaper, you're getting less car.
Better how? Because Australians disagree.
Canada here. Most of the middle-class can't afford new cars either. Trucks are big like RV's now and it's almost like buying a house.